Has Fury been made less effective by Deontay ?

[AlexKid]

I see no evidence of this I see the usual champion taking a challenger lightly and a challenger fighting the fight of their life, using a great set of skills from an advanced trainer, and getting a bit lucky and still losing.



I saw a less sharp Fury than usual, punches were slower, that tells me he trained less on teh bag and mitts etc, it looks like he didnt train as hard for this fight as for the Deontay fight, but isnt that to be expected?


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He is also talking about targeting the cut scar and skin in general to get a win that way.

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Is this all part of the build up?

Reminds me of the WWE

[DaNeutral.]

Wilder is WWE. As in fake. The resume tells us everything we need to know. Maybe other than power Wallin is a better fighter than Wilder and a better fighter is going to give Fury more problems. Other than 2 heavy power punches Wilder was worse than Wallin. But thats what we know about Wilder, hes a useless Boxer with a fantastic right hand.

[AlexKid]

Wilder is WWE. As in fake. The resume tells us everything we need to know. Maybe other than power Wallin is a better fighter than Wilder and a better fighter is going to give Fury more problems. Other than 2 heavy power punches Wilder was worse than Wallin. But thats what we know about Wilder, hes a useless Boxer with a fantastic right hand.

Hes one of the hardest punchers of all time, has skills that are not textbook and so not recognized as talent, and the best KO % in HW history so far I think?

He does throw the worst long hooks ive ever seen, cant believe that level of fighter cant do it properly. Are his trainers any good?

[DaNeutral.]

Hes one of the hardest punchers of all time, has skills that are not orthodox and so not recognized as talent, and the best KO % in HW history so far I think?

He does throw the worst long hooks ive ever seen, cant believe that level of fighter cant do it properly.

He also has one of the worst resumes a world champion has ever had to compliment that knock out ratio. You give any of the top fighters Wilders list of opposition and their knock out ratio would be very similar.

[AlexKid]

He also has one of the worst resumes a world champion has ever had to compliment that knock out ratio. You give any of the top fighters Wilders list of opposition and their knock out ratio would be very similar.

Its a fair counter point but some of those "bums" look really durable, I think not anyone else current would have got that % I think everyone else would have got more decision wins.

Also he showed he belongs with the very best of this era hes a fraction of a second away from being number 1

[DaNeutral.]

Its a fair counter point but some of those "bums" look really durable, I think not anyone else current would have got that % I think everyone else would have got more decision wins

Very true, i wont lie that power is mental.

[kafkod]

I see no evidence of this I see the usual champion taking a challenger lightly and a challenger fighting the fight of their life, using a great set of skills from an advanced trainer, and getting a bit lucky and still losing.



I saw a less sharp Fury than usual, punches were slower, that tells me he trained less on teh bag and mitts etc, it looks like he didnt train as hard for this fight as for the Deontay fight, but isnt that to be expected?


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He is also talking about targeting the cut scar and skin in general to get a win that way.

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Is this all part of the build up?

Reminds me of the WWE

Fury actually looked sharper against Wallin than he did against Wilder.

But Wallin is a southpaw and a better boxer than Wilder. The cuts bleeding into his right eye also affected Fury's performance a lot. You don't want to be blind on your right side against a clever southpaw.

[Laligalaliga]

Wallin had a good night.... Nothing more to that. Chisora, JJ, DD all will take him down easily.

[BangEM]

When has Fury ever been effective apart from running for 12rds against an uninspired Wlad?

No, McDermott made Fury less effective because he did more damage on Fury than Wilder.

Then you can add Bolivian ******* and fatty acids to things that made Fury less effective.

Wilder's power is grossly overrated. I would like to see him hit one of the top guys with good chin to know how great his power is. 49-yr old Ortiz took a few of those bombs and kept getting up until he was tired due to old age. Fury who has no chin took them and got up.

Let him stop fighting fat men and old men and fight a young top heavy. And if he can knock him out clean the way he did Breazeale who's a punching bag - I'll rate his power. I want to see him fight Dillian Whyte, Michael Hunter or even Andy Ruiz first.

[kafkod]

Its a fair counter point but some of those "bums" look really durable, I think not anyone else current would have got that % I think everyone else would have got more decision wins.

Also he showed he belongs with the very best of this era hes a fraction of a second away from being number 1

AJ KO'd Molina a lot quicker than Wilder did.

Povetkin knocked Duhaupus out cold with one punch. Wilder couldn't knock him down.

Chisora's KO of Szpilka was just as devastating as Wilder's, but Del Boy didn't get outboxed for 8 rounds before flattening him!

I don't know if AJ, Povetkin and Whyte hit as hard as Wilder. But imo, all 3 of them would have KO'd everybody on Wilder's record, apart from Fury and possibly Ortiz.