Comments Thread For: Canelo on De La Hoya: He Says Things That He Should Not Say

[Shadoww702]

so you could answer the rest of the questions and just want to focus on that 1? Fine. At mw- Charlo and andrade, at smw - plant, callum smith, benavidez, and LHW - bivol, gvozdyk, and beterbiev. I'm not even counting ggg who would be a bigger risk nor Saunders who based on his style could be a risk as well. Either way, I think everyone else is a bigger risk to Canelo than this current version of Kovalev at 36, who is run down and was nearly stopped by a novice weeks ago and now has to fight again in 6 weeks.

And ALL would beat Kovalov??? The only one on your list I would pick would be Gvozdyk. The other still have too many ???? Would you REALLY put all to beat Kov???

[Shadoww702]

Says the retarded keyboard high baller who thinks that challenging random posters to bets at an internet forum makes him some kind of big shot gambler.

You’ve been proven wrong ALL the fkn time! Am I wrong? Did you NOT pick ggg to KO Canelo? Did you not pick Kov to KO Ward??? Yeah that’s what I thought

[Jab jab boom]

And ALL would beat Kovalov???

styles make fights So I'm not assessing whether all would beat Kovalev, maybe they would or wouldn't, although, this version of Kovalev on the short turnaround who almost lost to Yarde could potentially lose to all of them. But based on age, style, wear and tear, I do think they are all a bigger risk to Canelo than Kovalev is right now.

[Shadoww702]

styles make fights So I'm not assessing whether all would beat Kovalev, maybe they would or wouldn't, although, this version of Kovalev on the short turnaround who almost lost to Yarde could potentially lose to all of them. But based on age, style, wear and tear, I do think they are all a bigger risk to Canelo than Kovalev is right now.

With that elite jab? I don’t

[icha]

Derevyanchenko was Canelo's IBF mando and entitled to expect a lot more than $5.5million.

What part of that don't you understand?

so dervy was entitled to a pct of what? you think that canelos deal with DAZN is part of purse bid? thats a network deal, and since there is no ppv for the fight then they can only split the gate... which also pays the rest of the fighters...
please explain what pct was dervy going to get?
canelo giving other fighters a pct of his network deal is never going to happen... basically anyone asking for this is pricing him self out of the canelo fight...

[Shadoww702]

styles make fights So I'm not assessing whether all would beat Kovalev, maybe they would or wouldn't, although, this version of Kovalev on the short turnaround who almost lost to Yarde could potentially lose to all of them. But based on age, style, wear and tear, I do think they are all a bigger risk to Canelo than Kovalev is right now.

I can't argue about that short turnaround? Or this version which is still elite just not as elite... I'm not going to argue with any of those other guys because we won't know until they fight each other or Canelo. You gave me a legit list so I can respect that and will tone it down a notch.

[Jab jab boom]

I can't argue about that short turnaround? Or this version which is still elite just not as elite... I'm not going to argue with any of those other guys because we won't know until they fight each other or Canelo. You gave me a legit list so I can respect that and will tone it down a notch.

fair enough.

[kafkod]

That’s an opinion... fact is he turned down 5.5 and now is fighting ggg for 5.5... come with facts please... thank you

No, that's a fact. As IBF mando Dereyanchenko was entitled to a 35% cut if it had gone to a bid. $5.5 million is only a fraction of that, around 13% of the total, assuming Canelo would recieve $35million.

If Canelo had been negotiating in good faith he would have offered Dereyanchenko more when the $5.5million was rejected.

so dervy was entitled to a pct of what? you think that canelos deal with DAZN is part of purse bid? thats a network deal, and since there is no ppv for the fight then they can only split the gate... which also pays the rest of the fighters...
please explain what pct was dervy going to get?
canelo giving other fighters a pct of his network deal is never going to happen... basically anyone asking for this is pricing him self out of the canelo fight...

See my answer to the other shameless fanboy above. There was no reason at all why Canelo couldn't have offered Dereyanchenko a reesonable cut of his DAZN fee to get the deal made without a purse bid being called. He didn't do that because he didn't want to fight Dereyanchenko.

It would have been a terrific, fan friendly match-up. And thankfully, GGG stepping up to the challenge after Canelo tucked his tail will give us another just as good, if not better.

[batista84]

There are MWs and SMWs who are riskier opponents for Canelo than a badly faded 37 year old Kovalev, and GGG is one of them.

Canelo is scared of losing to Golovkin and always has been. He couldn't get a legit win over him in 2 tries, despite stalling for years and using PEDs. Maybe when GGG is 40 years old, Canelo will give it another try.

I'm on the majority who thinks GGG won the first fight, still I gave Canelo the second one.

I don't care what anybody says second one could've gone either way because it was very close, so that win has to be considered a legit one.

[Robi13]

No, that's a fact. As IBF mando Dereyanchenko was entitled to a 35% cut if it had gone to a bid. $5.5 million is only a fraction of that, around 13% of the total, assuming Canelo would recieve $35million.

If Canelo had been negotiating in good faith he would have offered Dereyanchenko more when the $5.5million was rejected.



See my answer to the other shameless fanboy above. There was no reason at all why Canelo couldn't have offered Dereyanchenko a reesonable cut of his DAZN fee to get the deal made without a purse bid being called. He didn't do that because he didn't want to fight Dereyanchenko.

It would have been a terrific, fan friendly match-up. And thankfully, GGG stepping up to the challenge after Canelo tucked his tail will give us another just as good, if not better.

How is anyone entitled to canelos network deal?