Does Kovalev have ATG resume?

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  • Boxing Logic
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    #21
    Originally posted by asgarth
    is that really a HOF resume? If they had given him the first Ward fight, then certainly.
    but without?

    His best 5 wins are Alvarez, Hopkins, Pascal, Chilemba, Cleverly or Yarde. That doesn't really sound that deep.
    Most agree he won the first Ward fight though. Best wins:

    1. Ward 2. Yarde (not technically but a huge fast power puncher with an iron chin is an incredibly hard out for anyone. Would have loved to see Yarde vs Ward, styles make fights. Yarde looked even stronger and harder punching than Kovalev. Ward wobbled from Kovalev's jab. He might have gone with one Yarde punch. Remember the Boone fight? Boone is like a poor man's Yarde...) 3. Alvarez 4. BHop 5. Pascal

    Not bad.

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    • j0zef
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      #22
      Before the 1st Ward fight was announced, I argued that Kovalev's resume sucks. It still does. His best win, to this date, is 47 year old Bernard Hopkins. Sure, he's the Alien, and he's one of a kind, etc etc. But he was 47. He got KOd by Smith afterwards.

      Great fights are out there for him. Bivol, Gvozdyk, Beterbiev, now Zurdo are there.

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      • uppercut510
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        #23
        its a pretty good resume he will be HOF not ATG tho imo

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        • shenmue
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          #24
          Shame he didn't get the Stevenson fight, would have probably won and very unlucky to not have beaten ward, giving 7 rounds for Ward is a stretch if you ask me and I thought Kovalev won 7 or 8 rounds plus a knockdown and its a robbery in my eyes.

          But he has been one of the best fighters at LHW in his era, HOF for sure and debatable for ATG, probably missing the stand out wins though, add Canelo and some of the current LHW champions and there's no debate anymore.

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          • Rip Chudd
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            #25
            ATG resume? Heck no

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            • Larry the boss
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              #26
              no..............

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              • Larry the boss
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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic
                Most agree he won the first Ward fight though. Best wins:

                1. Ward 2. Yarde (not technically but a huge fast power puncher with an iron chin is an incredibly hard out for anyone. Would have loved to see Yarde vs Ward, styles make fights. Yarde looked even stronger and harder punching than Kovalev. Ward wobbled from Kovalev's jab. He might have gone with one Yarde punch. Remember the Boone fight? Boone is like a poor man's Yarde...) 3. Alvarez 4. BHop 5. Pascal

                Not bad.
                you cant just make up wins for boxers..he lost man, he lost

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                • joseph5620
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Boxing1013
                  Anyone saying that first fight was really even debatable is the one doing the 'fellating' lol...and to act like everything that happened in the 2nd fight was on the up and up...I mean if that's what you want to tell yourself man, go ahead, I won't stop ya...an ending like that, especially after the 1st fight, a real man would have given a 3rd fight right away, especially since it would have sold well.

                  And I just trust what my eyes tell me...Ward got outboxed 8-4 (being generous) in fight 1...and was getting outboxed about 5-2 in fight 2 before the controversial ending...not every shot was low but some definitely were, and the ones that ended it definitely were.

                  I think Kov should have handled the tactics better so I don't really give him a pass...but yeah in a neutral setting Ward is possibly DQd there and at least penalized/Kov given time to recover.

                  Hilarious btw that you think posting gay **** on a public forum is owning someone lol...you had to search for and download that right now to try and 'show me'...or even worse you have that saved on your computer...for what reason I have no idea...well I have an idea but yeah it's disgusting lol.

                  Enjoy that ban I guess man...I won't be reporting you but I'm sure someone will.
                  Ward was ahead on two of the three scorecards. You can't just make up your own scorecard as if it's official.

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                  • ShoulderRoll
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                    #29
                    Carl Froch...now THAT was a resume.

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                    • Boxing_1013
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      Ward was ahead on two of the three scorecards. You can't just make up your own scorecard as if it's official.
                      What are you talking about

                      And he was also ahead on all 3 official scorecards after the first fight...what happens in the ring and what gets scored are not always the same thing, and I know you know this.

                      To put another way...Kov won the punch count round by round 9-7...16-10...11-9...surely you would give him 2/3 of those.

                      Then 10-14 (Ward outlanding Kov)...14-9...12-7...and 11-4.

                      Punches landed aren't everything but they often times tell the story...winning 6/7 rounds on the punch stats...4 of them by 5+ punches...I mean to say Andre deserved to be up at that point...

                      I just don't really get it unless you are biased and looking for any way to get him a round...not accusing you of that but yeah can't see how anyone could possibly have him legitimately up after 7...5-2 Kov pretty clearly the right score imo.

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