So did Mayweather officially duck Margarito now that it's over?

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  • Super_Lightweight
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    #301
    I agree that Baldy going after Hatton or Floyd is a good move for Badly...but I was just highlighting Baldy's postfight interview as a way to illustrate the hardships Tony has faced in trying to get anyone who is seen as legit to fight him.

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    • Njord777
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      #302
      Floyd Mayweather is not a boxing robot. He was not created in a resarch facility near Arizona out of inhuman parts and created to war and fight forever. He is a human, a young guy, who has fought for most his life before ever being recognized as the pound for pound king. I think he might be able to beat Margarito. Other do not. Why, though, can't anyone see that, as a human being, the man wants to make some money from his career? As much money as possible? If you had struggled in obscurity for years and finally made it- would you not want the biggest paydays? Sure, some men want a legacy...but the average joe...wouldn't you want your hard work to pay off?

      Mayweather may not be afraid of Margarito...he may just be obsessed with cashing in while he is on top. No one stays young forever and he may only have another half decade left in the tank. Why doesn't anyone ever try and personalize these guys as more than just fighting machines? I don't think it makes him a ***** to want more money, just a businessman first. I can't fault you if you want a fighter's heart, which he may not have, but he is just a man.

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      • TheBlackWallStreet
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        #303
        Originally posted by charlie31
        sure, but he being #1 p4p he really didnt need those belts..especially according to him...
        I doubt he ever siad that he got those belts for a reason to be a 4 division champ and to achieve a goal.

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        • amagnin
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          #304
          Originally posted by charlie31
          k, now after seeing Baldi Ko Gatti( not that that makes him great, but does prove he isnt a slouch) dont you think him being "ring" champ at the time that he deserved a good payday? he got 1.5 mil for Gatti.. you dont think he derseved 1.5 mil for Floyd?
          At that point in time he didn't deserve much. A guy coming off the only recognizable victory in his career against the (arguably) #1 p4p guy in the sport. Floyd would have wanted and deserved almost all of the money. Floyd would be carrying the PPV and all Baldomir would be bringing is a belt.

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          • charlie31
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            #305
            Originally posted by TheBlackWallStreet
            I doubt he ever siad that he got those belts for a reason to be a 4 division champ and to achieve a goal.
            4 division title holder..not "champ"

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            • amagnin
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              #306
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              I agree that Baldy going after Hatton or Floyd is a good move for Badly...but I was just highlighting Baldy's postfight interview as a way to illustrate the hardships Tony has faced in trying to get anyone who is seen as legit to fight him.
              I agree. But this is a different situation because Margarito can offer something neither Floyd nor Ricky can...majority of the purse/PPV. If Baldomir really wants to cash in (and I think he does b/c he is 35 and has a family) then this can be his best bet. Plus in his mind he'll figure if he wins he'll have even more bargaining power against Floyd or Ricky.

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              • charlie31
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                #307
                Originally posted by amagnin
                At that point in time he didn't deserve much. A guy coming off the only recognizable victory in his career against the (arguably) #1 p4p guy in the sport. Floyd would have wanted and deserved almost all of the money. Floyd would be carrying the PPV and all Baldomir would be bringing is a belt.
                please "ring" champ dont deserve a mil?? for a defense?? mil is not alot of money

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                • amagnin
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                  #308
                  Originally posted by charlie31
                  please "ring" champ dont deserve a mil?? for a defense?? mil is not alot of money
                  But the total would have been lower than a Judah-Mayweather bout because Mayweather-Baldomir would not have been PPV. So it all depends on what the purse bid would have been. But my point is that regardless of belts etc. Baldomir did not deserve an even split. He was virtually unknown and the exposure itself would have been valuable.

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                  • charlie31
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                    #309
                    Originally posted by amagnin
                    And Bob Arum put a vote out to fans and the fans resoundingly voted to see Judah instead of Baldomir even after the loss. Most people believed that the Judah-Baldomir fight was a total fluke... I can't say that I was of a different opinion then.
                    vote huh? Arum never called me bout this vote. can you give him my email?
                    thats just dumb.

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                    • Easy-E
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                      #310
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      The reasoning for Tony getting to fight Floyd before Baldy is simple.

                      1) Tony has been considered an upper tier fighter at 147 for much longer.

                      2) Tony has offered the money that Baldy's camp simply cannot.

                      3) Wins over Gatti and Judah are no better combined than Lewis and Cintron.
                      You are 100% wrong there.
                      Last edited by Easy-E; 07-25-2006, 08:10 PM.

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