Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz on Rematch: Not Everything is Correct in The Contract

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  • andocom
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    #31
    Originally posted by kafkod
    It could be he's been told the contract wasn't drawn up or worded properly. Seems unlikely though,. I'm sure Eddie's lawyers know how to draw up a contract.
    Maybe, I doubt it though. How easy would it be to say, Joshua does not have choice of location, very easy right.

    So what could Ruiz mean which would be relevant, the contract wasn't drawn up correctly, so it's void, as in the whole contract was void including the first fight? Doubtful.

    It sounds a lot more like "The contract isn't what I'd like it to be", if so, that's a problem because you signed it already.

    Again, be super easy for Ruiz or team to clarify Joshua doesn't have choice of location, they haven't, where as everyone else has said Joshua has. The IBF sanctioned the fight in SA, doubt they would do that without knowing it was sound contractual.

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    • ReggieKray
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      #32
      Originally posted by andocom
      "Not everything is correct in the contract" is a really odd way to phrase it, the contract is correct, it might not be what you want it to be or what Hearn is claiming it is, but the contract is what is signed and agreed.

      That really sounds like "I don't like what is in the contract".

      Does anyone think if the contract didn't give Hearn location choice Ruiz wouldn't have come straight out and said it by now, leaving aside yes it would have been crazy for a promoter for not to include that initially.
      If there is any fault in the contract, contradiction, or something thing is stated too generally, a judge can deem it non binding. Just because the contract states Hearn can choose the location does not mean he can host it on Mars. The argument can be made that Andy was falsely led to assume the location would remain in the US. And AJ even said it himself that he had wanted to exercise his demons back in MSG.

      Point is that any decent lawyer can disarm a contract. That's what they do.

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      • REDEEMER
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        #33
        Originally posted by ReggieKray
        If there is any fault in the contract, contradiction, or something thing is stated too generally, a judge can deem it non binding. Just because the contract states Hearn can choose the location does not mean he can host it on Mars. The argument can be made that Andy was falsely led to assume the location would remain in the US. And AJ even said it himself that he had wanted to exercise his demons back in MSG.

        Point is that any decent lawyer can disarm a contract. That's what they do.
        A lawyer cannot disarm a signature.

        The contract never had opinions or statements of demons or MSG , stop. Ha

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        • ReggieKray
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          #34
          Originally posted by DaNeutral.
          DAMN, not everything in the contract is correct? DAMN DAMN. Then why did that fat clown dosser sign it?
          People sign contracts all the time that they don't intend to promise. A lot of the time contracts are just used for intimidation but can never actually stand up in court. I signed an NDA at work but it doesn't mean sh**. I can quit tomorrow and work for a competitor whenever I like. A judge would never rule to take away my means of living. The majority of folks don't realize and are properly intimidated. Hearn warning that he'd take legal actions is all part of the game. I'm sure there are exploits and a lot of statements in the contract that are too general. Any decent lawyer can probably disarm this contract. Especially over the location choice.

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          • ReggieKray
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            #35
            Originally posted by REDEEMER
            A lawyer cannot disarm a signature.

            The contract never had opinions or statements of demons or MSG , stop. Ha
            You're clearly an idiot...

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            • 1mb11
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              #36
              Lol, this fat slob is a lawyer now. Go collect that check and STFU!

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              • QballLobo
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                #37
                Originally posted by ReggieKray
                People sign contracts all the time that they don't intend to promise. A lot of the time contracts are just used for intimidation but can never actually stand up in court. I signed an NDA at work but it doesn't mean sh**. I can quit tomorrow and work for a competitor whenever I like. A judge would never rule to take away my means of living. The majority of folks don't realize and are properly intimidated. Hearn warning that he'd take legal actions is all part of the game. I'm sure there are exploits and a lot of statements in the contract that are too general. Any decent lawyer can probably disarm this contract. Especially over the location choice.
                The difference is your just some joe shmoe off the street. You can claim ignorance or claim you don’t have the means to refuse a job based on a noncompete.
                Ruiz is managed by Haymon who has been in the business for decades. He had adequate representation or the means to hire an outside lawyer to review everything to make sure he had full understanding.
                Boxing events have been held before in SA and the fighters miraculously lived so the “I’m scared to go there” argument is a pretty thin by legal standards.
                It’s all posturing 5 months before the fight which is his right but the idea that someone could just walk away from a contract at that level is pretty laughable.

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                • Boksfan
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                  #38
                  Everything is correct in the contract, there is no pulling out for fat Mexican without suspension and money penalties. Look at all the imbeciles here thinking they are lawyers

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                  • CJFRENCH
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                    #39
                    and so will Ruiz as he sits waiting....

                    Originally posted by Dontbeahater
                    Are you aj fanboys finished yet?
                    It's called negotiating. It's what happens after aj getting tko and quitting.

                    Ruiz knows he has leverage. Its not like he lost the fight! He has 3 belts!

                    Go to court because then aj has to waste a year waiting around no making money.
                    or what could happen is Ruiz gets stripped of his titles, first up the IBF and AJ fights Pulev for the title and then may be a 2nd title comes up....

                    Ruiz if his is allowed to fight has to wait for Wilder v Fury if he wants big money: then maybe the winner of that will want to face AJ (who they know can be beaten now) who could have one of his belts back for the bigger money than fighting Ruiz who maybe has one or no titles left.

                    Thus AJ can afford to wait and carry on improving his boxing skills as he has no belts to lose and loads of money. The bonus being Ruiz will get stripped of his titles and there is a very good chance AJ will get to fight for them. All they have to do is stop Ruiz fighting until all his belts are gone and then rather than finally go to court let Ruiz buy his way out to cover their costs.

                    Ruiz is trying to get big money now as he could lose the rematch and then back to square one. Thus he knows they want it in UK so he is digging his heals in.

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                    • petegrif
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                      #40
                      Pretty sure the legal team around Hearn and his father know how to draft a solid contact. They've been in the live events business a LONG time.

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