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  • TonyGe
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    #41
    Originally posted by BangEM
    But you still haven’t answered why GGG would gladly fight guys who’re 147 and 154 but won’t fight anyone at 168.

    And who stays in one weight class throughout his career when he’s not a heavyweight?
    Usually fighters that started late as pros.

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    • BangEM
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      #42
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      Usually fighters that started late as pros.
      Name one top boxer that stayed in one division throughout his career (excluding cruiserweights and heavyweights).

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      • brettWall
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        #43
        I believe in Canelo saying there's nothing in his contract that binds him in a third fight with GGG. Bear in mind that GGG disappeared for almost a year without a trace. Why would DAZN knew in advanced Golovkin is going to sign with them?

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        • OnePunch
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          #44
          Originally posted by BangEM
          Name one top boxer that stayed in one division throughout his career (excluding cruiserweights and heavyweights).
          does Marvin Hagler count?

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          • TonyGe
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            #45
            Originally posted by BangEM
            Name one top boxer that stayed in one division throughout his career (excluding cruiserweights and heavyweights).
            Hagler. Carlos Monzon. Willie Pep.

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            • stealthradon
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              #46
              Originally posted by BangEM
              He got that money because of Canelo. That limited bum beater isn’t box office and we all saw how his last fight bombed at the box office.
              The most popular HBOsports videos
              Canelo has 6 out of the 28 most popular videos.
              GGG has 7 out of the 28 most popular videos.

              Canelo has a combined record of 17,329,471 views.
              GGG has a combined record of 13,292,176 views.
              The only reason that Canelo has the large amount of views is because of his fight with Amir Khan. Who in just 3 videos has
              14,620,816 views.

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              • stealthradon
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                #47
                Originally posted by BangEM
                Name one top boxer that stayed in one division throughout his career (excluding cruiserweights and heavyweights).
                Ricky Hatton (Had one or two fights above 140)
                Jermain Tailor (Had a few fights above 160)
                Felix Sturm (Had a few fight above 160 in the twilight of his career)
                Joe Calazghe (Had a few fights above 168 in the twilight of his career)
                Terry Norris. (From 148 to 154).
                Sergey Kovalev
                Carl Froch
                John Conteh
                Zab Judah
                Maurice Hope
                Carl Frampton
                Erislandy Lara
                Austin Trout

                But I guess they don't count.

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                • UNBIASED BOXING
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BangEM
                  But you still haven’t answered why GGG would gladly fight guys who’re 147 and 154 but won’t fight anyone at 168.

                  And who stays in one weight class throughout his career when he’s not a heavyweight?
                  He was very willing to fight Carl Froch and JCC Jr. back in the day. They didn't want it. Are you pretending that never happened? Or, are we still pretending like the Ward fight was even reasonable when:

                  a) Ward was on a legal layoff
                  b) When Ward came back, Golovkin was already in talks for his first PPV fight against David Lemieux
                  c) Ward had just fought at his first tune-up fight moving up to 175, at 172. Four months prior to the GGG vs. Lemieux fight.

                  Kell Brook? - Are you still pretending the whole incident of Chris Eubank Jr. losing his pen didn't happen?

                  Who from 154? Are you going to bring up his early fights before he was even in the U.S.? Or maybe, Rosado? Who was only his second U.S. fight?


                  I'm surely, expect fully rational answers from you.


                  In regards to the weight class movement:

                  That's all smoke and mirrors. You're going to compare him to guys who started professionally boxing at 18 or 21, and moved up multiple weight classes as they... matured. Meanwhile, you'll neglect that GGG's growing was when he was in the amateurs, and he was moving weight classes on that side.

                  But I really don't expect a fair response from you, so I'm not sure why I even bother.

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                  • BangEM
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by UNBIASED BOXING
                    He was very willing to fight Carl Froch and JCC Jr. back in the day. They didn't want it. Are you pretending that never happened? Or, are we still pretending like the Ward fight was even reasonable when:

                    a) Ward was on a legal layoff
                    b) When Ward came back, Golovkin was already in talks for his first PPV fight against David Lemieux
                    c) Ward had just fought at his first tune-up fight moving up to 175, at 172. Four months prior to the GGG vs. Lemieux fight.

                    Kell Brook? - Are you still pretending the whole incident of Chris Eubank Jr. losing his pen didn't happen?

                    Who from 154? Are you going to bring up his early fights before he was even in the U.S.? Or maybe, Rosado? Who was only his second U.S. fight?


                    I'm surely, expect fully rational answers from you.


                    In regards to the weight class movement:

                    That's all smoke and mirrors. You're going to compare him to guys who started professionally boxing at 18 or 21, and moved up multiple weight classes as they... matured. Meanwhile, you'll neglect that GGG's growing was when he was in the amateurs, and he was moving weight classes on that side.

                    But I really don't expect a fair response from you, so I'm not sure why I even bother.
                    Long arse essay without answering my question.

                    Bernard Hopkins started boxing late and he moved up.

                    Again: why is your GGG the only guy in the history of boxing (minus heavyweight and cruiserweight) to stay in one division throughout his career but would gladly fight boxers in lower divisions?

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by lolpz
                      So Canelo is desperate for the Golovkin fight is what you're telling me?

                      Because that's what his promoter and DAZN are trying to force him to do atm. Fight Golovkin.
                      No. That isn't what I am saying. I am saying his beef with ODH is fake. He doesn't want to fight GGG. ODH is doing this to manage the PR fallout given Canelo , in the eyes of manyin the public, is avoiding the 2 men believed by many to be his toughest challengers at MW right now, Charlo and GGG.

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