Let's just say Pacquiao is on PEDS.

[KTFOKING]

so manny just knows when to cycle off... yet other high profile names are getting popped? 20+ years. not even 1 slip up! nothing! 20+ years!!!! lol

Yes, Manny in this case would just know when to cycle off.

Once again, you are not taking into consideration the other potential hundreds of fighters that are juicing that have never been tested positive before. You just those who get popped are the only ones juicing. That is flaw in your argument.

This has nothing to do with Manny having some sort of special secret of knowing how to cycle off on time or being smarter than others. He would just be one of many who are getting away with taking PEDs.

[IceTrayDaGang]

Yes, Manny in this case would just know when to cycle off.

Once again, you are not taking into consideration the other potential hundreds of fighters that are juicing that have never been tested positive before. You just those who get popped are the only ones juicing. That is flaw in your argument.

This has nothing to do with Manny having some sort of special secret of knowing how to cycle off on time or being smarter than others. He would just be one of many who are getting away with taking PEDs.

Omg!! I just explained to you that if other high profile names is following the same steps manny is, then that means its not a secret!! So why is other fighters still getting popped??!! You can't just say because they didn't cycle off in time yet for manny, 20+ years, never been caught and your reason for this is "manny knows when to cycle off".. lol

[KTFOKING]

Omg!! I just explained to you that if other high profile names is following the same steps manny is, then that means its not a secret!! So why is other fighters still getting popped??!! You can't just say because they didn't cycle off in time yet for manny, 20+ years, never been caught and your reason for this is "manny knows when to cycle off".. lol

OMG!!! I just explained you have moron fighters who mistime their cycles or are flat out just ****** in the case of Miller.

And of course it isn't a secret. I've mentioned that multiple of times in this thread. You just tend to ignore what you don't want to hear. Then you try to twist the argument into if Manny is smarter than Lance Armstrong...Like WTF are we even doing here?

[IceTrayDaGang]

OMG!!! I just explained you have moron fighters who mistime their cycles or are flat out just ****** in the case of Miller.

And of course it isn't a secret. I've mentioned that multiple of times in this thread. You just tend to ignore what you don't want to hear. Then you try to twist the argument into if Manny is smarter than Lance Armstrong...Like WTF are we even doing here?

So other fighters are just idiots, yet for manny, he just knows when to cycle off? lol. This is the same manny that signed with Oscar and top rank at the same time right?

[kafkod]

"Let's just say Pacquiao is on PEDS"

please explain to me how he's able to get away with it for 20+ years without even getting popped once? PEDS in boxing is nothing new, lots of fighters have been caught using it. so please explain to me how a fighter from a 3rd world country is able to cheat the system for so long? and why cant other fighters follow the same steps manny is taking to get away with it without getting caught??!!!

But why just say Pacquiao is on PEDs when he's never tested positive?

Why make a totally unwarranted assumption, based on evidence at all, then start talking about it as if it was a proven fact?

[mxtali]

Everyone is on PEDs. Some of them are legal or haven’t been placed on the banned list yet. Like when Povetkin was on Meldonium. He was using it before it became banned but that doesn’t make the effect he got it from any less. I’m sure every single top fighter is on some PED legal or not.

[4truth]

"let's just say" about sums up your credibility.

[The Big Dunn]

Any belief about Manny using were created by Manny when he refused to take PED tests and killed the fight in 09/10.

If you read the forums daily, whenever a fighter misses a PED test or there is no PED testing for a fight posters assume the boxer is on PED's. If the boxer isn't enrolled in year around random PED testing, they are assumed to be dirty. Manny is subject t o this scrutiny same as any other fighter.

Manny fans like the TS will give him every benefit of the doubt. Posters that aren't Manny diehards like me will hold him to the same standard the board holds every other fighter.

At this point it doesn't matter, Manny's legacy is set, whether he used or not.

[4truth]

Any belief about Manny using were created by Manny when he refused to take PED tests and killed the fight in 09/10.

If you read the forums daily, whenever a fighter misses a PED test or there is no PED testing for a fight posters assume the boxer is on PED's. If the boxer isn't enrolled in year around random PED testing, they are assumed to be dirty. Manny is subject t o this scrutiny same as any other fighter.

Manny fans like the TS will give him every benefit of the doubt. Posters that aren't Manny diehards like me will hold him to the same standard the board holds every other fighter.

At this point it doesn't matter, Manny's legacy is set, whether he used or not.

Doesn't matter to you that the testing was tailored by his opponent or that it is suspected and not without reason that it was biased?

[IceTrayDaGang]

"Let's just say Pacquiao is on PEDS"



But why just say Pacquiao is on PEDs when he's never tested positive?

Why make a totally unwarranted assumption, based on evidence at all, then start talking about it as if it was a proven fact?

that's what i am asking. im not saying manny is on peds! i am using that as an example. i am asking why is it that other fighters are getting popped for peds, yet manny has been accused of using peds but has never been caught for 20+ years. so i am asking, IF manny is on peds, why cant other fighters follow the same step pac takes in order to not get caught?