Is Pacquiao this generation’s Roberto Duran?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

He's not wrong. Someone posted list Durans top 5 best wins and I could only come up with 4. I grew up watching Duran so I'm from the era. After looking at his record, it's pretty bad for names.

Why don't you list Durans top 5 best wins and lets see how much you know?

1-Sugar Ray Leonard
2- Ken Buchanan
3- Davey Moore
4- Iran Barkley
5- Esteban DeJesus
6- Pipino Cuevas
7- Carlos Palomino
8- Saoul Mamby
9- Hiroshi Kobayashi
10- Ernesto Marcel

For one thing, it's must easier to list the names for a modern fighter. It's fresh on the memory. Duran started his career in the 60s. So much has been forgotten since then, including especially, inside fighting and referees who say "Punch and Get Out." And "names" doesn't always mean great or special either. It means they probably sold some tickets and not much else.

[pasawayako]

lol it just sad to see the truth when dissected the way you put it.

hahahaha that guy can't swallow his own medicine.

[buddyr]

1-Sugar Ray Leonard
2- Ken Buchanan
3- Davey Moore
4- Iran Barkley
5- Esteban DeJesus
6- Pipino Cuevas
7- Carlos Palomino
8- Saoul Mamby
9- Hiroshi Kobayashi
10- Ernesto Marcel

For one thing, it's must easier to list the names for a modern fighter. It's fresh on the memory. Duran started his career in the 60s. So much has been forgotten since then, including especially, inside fighting and referees who say "Punch and Get Out." And "names" doesn't always mean great or special either. It means they probably sold some tickets and not much else.

cmon man, you know how younger people are. Nothing matters past the point of when they started watching something. There are literally millions of people that think the NBA started in 1991 with Jordan and only Jordan, Kobe, or Lebron ever accomplished anything in the league's 74 year history.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

cmon man, you know how younger people are. Nothing matters past the point of when they started watching something. There are literally millions of people that think the NBA started in 1991 with Jordan and only Jordan, Kobe, or Lebron ever accomplished anything in the league's 74 year history.

Hahaha. You are so right about that. I talk to a friend of mine about Sam Langford and Harry Greb. These newbies would have to look them up for sure. I like fighters from all eras and I think Duran beats most of them but hell, that doesn't mean they aren't great.

[Mike D]

Unlike you I actually appreciate the sport in its entirety, respect all fighters, and I don’t go out of my way to trash other athletes on a daily basis.

This is what I hate about the boxing fanbase. I mean sure many sports have toxic fanbases but I don't think any of them can beat the fans of boxing. It's a f***king cesspool, man. With the worst of the worst here. We got so many pathetic lowlife posters here who virtually exist to trash certain fighters and attack certain fanbases. It's amazing. I've never really seen anything like it. Not on this level anyway. The disrespect here for boxers all over the spectrum is just off the charts. Everybody is overrated, everybody's a bum, everybody's on steroids. Zero respect at all for these fighters who really do put it on the line in an extremely dangerous and unforgiving sport.

And how pathetic and sad does one have to be to make website accounts just to spend countless hours discrediting boxers?? Lmao it's weird as f***k. I mean sure there are fighters I'm not a fan of, and guys I root against -- but you will never catch me here putting out post after post and thread after thread talking shyt about these guys. Why? Because I got better things and more productive things to do than spend time and energy attacking boxers and fans of those boxers from behind my damn keyboard. Like who the f***k does that?? Well apparently a f***king lot because this forum is overflowing with them. F***king weirdos man I swear. Get a f***king life you f***king nerds

[Tony Trick-Pony]

This is what I hate about the boxing fanbase. I mean sure many sports have toxic fanbases but I don't think any of them can beat the fans of boxing. It's a f***king cesspool, man. With the worst of the worst here. We got so many pathetic lowlife posters here who virtually exist to trash certain fighters and attack certain fanbases. It's amazing. I've never really seen anything like it. Not on this level anyway. The disrespect here for boxers all over the spectrum is just off the charts. Everybody is overrated, everybody's a bum, everybody's on steroids. Zero respect at all for these fighters who really do put it on the line in an extremely dangerous and unforgiving sport.

And how pathetic and sad does one have to be to make website accounts just to spend countless hours discrediting boxers?? Lmao it's weird as f***k. I mean sure there are fighters I'm not a fan of, and guys I root against -- but you will never catch me here putting out post after post and thread after thread talking shyt about these guys. Why? Because I got better things and more productive things to do than spend time and energy attacking boxers and fans of those boxers from behind my damn keyboard. Like who the f***k does that?? Well apparently a f***king lot because this forum is overflowing with them. F***king weirdos man I swear. Get a f***king life you f***king nerds

[Flo_Raiden]

This is what I hate about the boxing fanbase. I mean sure many sports have toxic fanbases but I don't think any of them can beat the fans of boxing. It's a f***king cesspool, man. With the worst of the worst here. We got so many pathetic lowlife posters here who virtually exist to trash certain fighters and attack certain fanbases. It's amazing. I've never really seen anything like it. Not on this level anyway. The disrespect here for boxers all over the spectrum is just off the charts. Everybody is overrated, everybody's a bum, everybody's on steroids. Zero respect at all for these fighters who really do put it on the line in an extremely dangerous and unforgiving sport.

And how pathetic and sad does one have to be to make website accounts just to spend countless hours discrediting boxers?? Lmao it's weird as f***k. I mean sure there are fighters I'm not a fan of, and guys I root against -- but you will never catch me here putting out post after post and thread after thread talking shyt about these guys. Why? Because I got better things and more productive things to do than spend time and energy attacking boxers and fans of those boxers from behind my damn keyboard. Like who the f***k does that?? Well apparently a f***king lot because this forum is overflowing with them. F***king weirdos man I swear. Get a f***king life you f***king nerds

Agree with everything you said wholeheartedly. Never has there been any sport where they have the most toxic fanbase. There’s a reason why I’ve avoided this message board for awhile, and it’s because of lowlives like this BodyBagz kid that infest it. The amount of sh@t spewed by that loser is incredible but also sad. I remember he would constantly bump up his own thread dedicated
to hating on Pac hoping that he’s getting his own message across, but he’s really the only person who is commenting on it. What’s more disturbing is the fact that he really truly believes everything he is saying is the truth, like it’s the fcking holy grail. I have never seen a person this devoted in hating an athlete of high status.

Pathetic but also amusing
He’s a fake fight fan that probably has no idea of any other fighter outside of Mayweather or Pacquiao.

[War Room]

1-Sugar Ray Leonard
2- Ken Buchanan
3- Davey Moore
4- Iran Barkley
5- Esteban DeJesus
6- Pipino Cuevas
7- Carlos Palomino
8- Saoul Mamby
9- Hiroshi Kobayashi
10- Ernesto Marcel

For one thing, it's must easier to list the names for a modern fighter. It's fresh on the memory. Duran started his career in the 60s. So much has been forgotten since then, including especially, inside fighting and referees who say "Punch and Get Out." And "names" doesn't always mean great or special either. It means they probably sold some tickets and not much else.

Palomino was a nobody that never beat anybody, really? Finished with a 31-4 record when fighters had lots of fights. I would never mention this guy, nobody remembers no Palomino.

Buchanan has a few wins.

Barkley, come on dude. Barkley was shet.

Davey Moore lol? He was 12-0 when he fought Duran and ended up 18-5, who cares about Davey Moore again?

Esteban, good win good fighter.

29-8 Cuevos that ended up 35-15? Pipino never beat anybody.

Saoul Mamby, Hiroshi Kobayashi, Ernesto Marcel ---> you're trippin with these guys man lmao.

So basically you have --->

• Leonard
• Buchanan
• DeJesus
• Barkley*

Nowhere near Pacquiao's total resume. Granted Leonard prime is better than anything Manny has done, no fight there.

cmon man, you know how younger people are. Nothing matters past the point of when they started watching something. There are literally millions of people that think the NBA started in 1991 with Jordan and only Jordan, Kobe, or Lebron ever accomplished anything in the league's 74 year history.

Kid, I was born in the early 70's and watched Leonard live in the Olympics. How old are you again?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

Palomino was a nobody that never beat anybody, really? Finished with a 31-4 record when fighters had lots of fights. I would never mention this guy, nobody remembers no Palomino.

Buchanan has a few wins.

Barkley, come on dude. Barkley was shet.

Davey Moore lol? He was 12-0 when he fought Duran and ended up 18-5, who cares about Davey Moore again?

Esteban, good win good fighter.

29-8 Cuevos that ended up 35-15? Pipino never beat anybody.

Saoul Mamby, Hiroshi Kobayashi, Ernesto Marcel ---> you're trippin with these guys man lmao.

So basically you have --->

• Leonard
• Buchanan
• DeJesus
• Barkley*

Nowhere near Pacquiao's total resume. Granted Leonard prime is better than anything Manny has done, no fight there.




Kid, I was born in the early 70's and watched Leonard live in the Olympics. How old are you again?

LOL.

List Pac's top five wins. I'll be happy to crap all over them, too, big boy.

First off, you can rundown anybody's resume and none of them are that much different. Pac beat some good fighters. Duran beat some good fighters. Both lost to good fighters, too. That's pretty much everybody. Would Pac have a shot at prime Duran? I doubt it. Duran had way more fights and beat plenty of good fighters. You act like Pac fought nothing but quality guys. We know he didn't. Both of them fought who was out there at the time and cool it with the records bull s h i t. Records don't mean anything. In this era, everyone comes up unbeaten because that's how they're marketed. They usually suck when they step up, though. Pac himself didn't come up unbeaten which actually helped him. He learned from some great teachers in Morales and Marquez. I guess i'm at the point where I've forgotten the point of this thread. Both were great. Was Pac this generation's Duran? Hell I don't even know what that means. Yeah, I guess?

[War Room]

LOL.

List Pac's top five wins. I'll be happy to crap all over them, too, big boy.

First off, you can rundown anybody's resume and none of them are that much different. Pac beat some good fighters. Duran beat some good fighters. Both lost to good fighters, too. That's pretty much everybody. Would Pac have a shot at prime Duran? I doubt it. Duran had way more fights and beat plenty of good fighters. You act like Pac fought nothing but quality guys. We know he didn't. Both of them fought who was out there at the time and cool it with the records bull s h i t. Records don't mean anything. In this era, everyone comes up unbeaten because that's how they're marketed. They usually suck when they step up, though. Pac himself didn't come up unbeaten which actually helped him. He learned from some great teachers in Morales and Marquez. I guess i'm at the point where I've forgotten the point of this thread. Both were great. Was Pac this generation's Duran? Hell I don't even know what that means. Yeah, I guess?

Cool your jets there chief.

You cannot run down everyones resume and sound legit, thats the biggest load of shet people say that can't stand on two legs. If it don't work in your favor, it doesn't work in anybody's favor, fcuk out of here with the parenting bullshet. The wins on Durans record isn't that god man, just the facts. Yes, he fought everybody in their prime (Manny didn't), but he came up short on most of the wins.

I'm on board with Manny's record that they picked most of his best opponents when they were at their weakest, but the fact remains his winning resume ON PAPER shets on Durans minus Leonard. I'll even put *'s on the names I think were hand picked at their weakest.

MAB*, Morales*, JMM (I thought JMM won all and got a draw in #1), Hatton*, Oscar*, Cotto*, Margarito, Bradley, Thurman, Mosley*.

Let me show you how a real boxing aficianado does it because guys like you disagree with every molecule in a debate with the other side and never gives and inch. I'll agrtee to what's agreeable and I'll do that now ---> would the best Duran beat the best Manny, maybe ---> but it's close to a pick 'em. The odds would be close, Duran maybe -200 favorite, maybe -175. Duran never fought anybody like Manny. Manny has flaws that work for him.