Mayweather takes a MASSIVE dive in the history books tonight (RIP floyd)

[aboutfkntime]

No dude I'm not a Pac or Mayweather fan, I like neither because their fandoms are awful. But I recognise a close (and boring) fight when I see it. The fact people debate the result makes it a controversial one, I mean look up the definition of controversy man. For Christ's sake. That one had little to separate the two. Spoiling a fight by shutting down what the other guy does as often as possible doesn't mean you won it.

there is no fkn debate, you moron

keep riding the short-bus, with the other casuals

[aboutfkntime]

Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradley, morakes, barrera alone equates and deals with floyds entire worthwhile part of career and best wins.
You don't even need to bring Pac s additional wins into play over cotto, dlh, hatton, ssm and now thurman.
Pac s got the stronger in depth resume. Pac s best of era. With Pac the only discussion is where he ranks all time and how far behind you place floyd.

Manny NEVER solved the Marquez-puzzle... not once !!

some historians say Pac lost every fight with Marquez

Bradley..... ????

Canelo, Pacquiao, Marquez, Corrales > Morales/Barrera

beating Cotto/Hoya at a healthy weight... is just icing on the cake

[The D3vil]

not when it comes to substance

also, he lost to Mayweather

also, all of those losses..... ?

Losses tend to happen when you always fight outside your country and aren't the A-side.

Mayweather never left America once.

Pacquiao hasn't fought in his country since 2006.

HE lost to Mayweather, the naturally larger guy in a weight class almost 50lbs above the one he started at.

Imagine "Chocolatito" fighting Terence Crawford for the welterweight belt. That's the equivalent.

Like Muhammad Ali said, "If you're undefeated, it's because you haven't fought everybody".

Mayweather was the smarter guy and chose the safer more lucrative road, but Manny took the hardest road possible and is still beating undefeated champs a decade younger than him at 40.

Floyd was boxing MMA guys at 40

[The D3vil]

The problem with your logic is that you act as if Manny had to put on 40 pounds to get up to welterweight. 147 pounds is probably Manny's walking around weight right now. When Manny turned pro he was literally a child who's body was still developing. People are acting as if Manny's jump in weight is similar to Roy Jones literally adding weight to his matured frame and going up to heavyweight fighting much larger men. Manny is facing guys who, although bigger, are closer to his size.

When Floyd was 16 years old he fought at 106 pounds just as Manny did. The difference is Floyd was fighting in the amateurs because you are not allowed to turn pro at 16 in the United States, where in the Philippines you can.

Yes Manny beat Keith Thurman but we can't ignore the knockout losses to two nobodies early in his career. Or the knockout loss to a 39 year old Marquez. Or losing a decision to Jeff Horn, a guy who started boxing at 18.
We can't say he is greater than a guy who won titles in 5 weight classes without a single defeat and has a win over Manny himself.

Again, when you're forced to take risks, bad things happen.

Manny's first loss came because he was forced to jump 2 weight classes and couldn't make the minimum weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves, while keeping rocks in his pocket.

That's how desperate he was.

Floyd came in at 130 as a heralded Olympian and never left America and never left Las Vegas after 2006, where he was always the A-side and would always be guaranteed to get a decision

Does Floyd get the decision against Castillo anywhere else?

Or against Maidana somewhere else?

Maybe not.

That's why guys stay home. Just ask Lennox Lewis

Manny hasn't fought in the Philippines since 2006.

So, he got robbed against Horn in Australia

And he gets robbed against Bradley in Las Vegas.

That's going to happen,

Yes, he got knocked out badly by Marquez.

Roberto Duran got badly knocked out by Thomas Hearns, does that mean that he's not all-time great?

The majority of boxing historians have Roberto Duran ahead of Floyd Mayweather all-time. Do they not?

And we all know that Marquez was probably juicing.

Have you seen his body at 39 in comparison to where it was before?

Floyd is naturally the bigger guy

Manny was fighting at 112 at 19

Floyd was fighting at 130 at 19

Have you ever seen them stand next to each other?



He has to gorge to make 147.

Floyd walks around at around 160.

Ultimately, Floyd took the easier road.

He stayed in America.

He fought dudes either after they were at their most dangerous or before they were at their most dangerous in the last decade of his career.

And he got what he wanted, the money and the perfect record.

Manny took risks, through more weight classes, traveled all over, fought everybody, even when they were in their prime, and didn't duck anybody.

Yeah, he didn't keep his "0" and he didn't make as much money, but it should be more respected.

[aboutfkntime]

Losses tend to happen when you always fight outside your country and aren't the A-side.

Mayweather never left America once.

Pacquiao hasn't fought in his country since 2006.

HE lost to Mayweather, the naturally larger guy in a weight class almost 50lbs above the one he started at.

Imagine "Chocolatito" fighting Terence Crawford for the welterweight belt. That's the equivalent.

Like Muhammad Ali said, "If you're undefeated, it's because you haven't fought everybody".

Mayweather was the smarter guy and chose the safer more lucrative road, but Manny took the hardest road possible and is still beating undefeated champs a decade younger than him at 40.

Floyd was boxing MMA guys at 40

FACT: the number of divisions in which you campaigned, has nothing whatsoever to do with greatness..... there are plenty of great fighters who only campaigned in one division, including every great heavyweight

FACT: where you fought, has nothing whatsoever to do with greatness

FACT: espy awards (lol)..... have nothing to do with greatness

who did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how

* Floyd beat him head-to-head, when Pac was a natural welter
* Floyd beat more higher-level opponents
* Floyd never got knocked down..... knocked out..... or lost

Mayweather > Pac..... and is still not even close

[BoloShot]

there is no fkn debate, you moron

keep riding the short-bus, with the other casuals

Ah I see you're a guy who uses the word casual as a substitute for an argument. Enjoy being insecure in your lack of knowledge bud. I mean you're the most biased source someone could ask for so I'd drop trying to be so clearly one sided if I were you. Toodles.

[aboutfkntime]

Ah I see you're a guy who uses the word casual as a substitute for an argument. Enjoy being insecure in your lack of knowledge bud. I mean you're the most biased source someone could ask for so I'd drop trying to be so clearly one sided if I were you. Toodles.

but, toodles..... it is clearly one sided, it aint even close.....

who did you beat..... with consideration given to when/how

* Floyd beat him head-to-head, when Pac was a natural welter
* Floyd beat more higher-level opponents
* Floyd never got knocked down..... knocked out..... or lost

Mayweather > Pac..... and it is still not even close

[hugh grant]

Manny NEVER solved the Marquez-puzzle... not once !!

some historians say Pac lost every fight with Marquez

Bradley..... ????

Canelo, Pacquiao, Marquez, Corrales > Morales/Barrera

beating Cotto/Hoya at a healthy weight... is just icing on the cake

Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradley, morales, barrera deals with flouds entire career, Floyd only has about 8 wins worth talking about. Many historians think Floyd lost to Castillo and maidana (and isn't it the unbeaten record flouds only selling point) and also that Floyd used cw against nelo to preserve unbeaten record. Floyd s record is manufactured, smoke and mirrors. Nobody considers him unbeaten and unbeaten records are su****ious anyway even Ali said it. And people are su****ious as heck towards floyds record.

Don't need to mention Pac s additional wins over cotto, dlh, Hatton which were more dominant. Floyd s got a competent resume compared to most fighters but no real comparison to pacs. Too strong in depth is pacs, Floyd would be first to tell you that in a private moment.

The thurman.win historically is better than any Floyd win. No ww has a ww title at 40. In history. Not srr, not armstrong. Not srl.

[aboutfkntime]

Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradkey, morales, barrera deals with flouds entire career, Floyd only has about 8 wins worth talking about.
Don't need to mention Pac s additional wins over cotti, dlh, Hatton which were more dominant.
The thurman.win historically is better than any Floyd win. No ww has a ww title at 40. In history. Not srr, not armstrong. Not srl.

Hugh, it was only Thurman..... that is all

it's not like Pac beat Crawford or Spence

Thurman is probably the 5th best welter..... that is all

Mayweather beating Pacquiao when he was 38, is MUCH better than Pacquiao beating Thurman when he was 40

Mayweather beating Canelo when he was 36, is MUCH better than Pacquiao beating Thurman when he was 40

it is just plain ****** to suggest that beating Thurman miraculously elevates Pac over Mayweather, Robinson, Armstrong, and Leonard..... that is utter nonsense

you guys are going full ret4rd..... again !

[hugh grant]

Hugh, it was only Thurman..... that is all

it's not like Pac beat Crawford or Spence

Thurman is probably the 5th best welter..... that is all

Mayweather beating Pacquiao when he was 38, is MUCH better than Pacquiao beating Thurman when he was 40

Mayweather beating Canelo when he was 36, is MUCH better than Pacquiao beating Thurman when he was 40

it is just plain ****** to suggest that beating Thurman miraculously elevates Pac over Mayweather, Robinson, Armstrong, and Leonard..... that is utter nonsense

you guys are going full ret4rd..... again !

There have been far weaker Wws champs than thurman in history so why no 40 year olds beat them? So your argument holds no grounds.

Pac s 40 so how can a Floyd win over pac at 38 be better. Jmm beat pac before floyd so it's been done before, so how does Floyd beating smaller Pac be so special. Pac did what nobody in history did. Floyd did what jmm did a few years before, so how can what flous did be so unique or special?.Before you click on submit reply can you re-read what you write please before unleashing upon world