Mayweather takes a MASSIVE dive in the history books tonight (RIP floyd)

[The D3vil]

Using your reasoning George Foreman would be a greater fighter than Muhammad Ali. He knocked out two guys who beat Ali and became heavyweight champion at 45 years old While Ali was done in his late 30s. Foreman in his 40s took a prime Holyfield the distance while Mike Tyson was Ko'd by a slightly past prime Holyfield.

Does any of that make Foreman greater than Muhammad Ali? No, because at the end of the day Ali still beat Foreman.

Floyd will always be above Pacquaio. He beat Manny when Manny was still champ and beat Manny's toughest opponent (Juan Manuel Marquez) with ease.

The problem with your logic of using heavyweights is that Manny fought Floyd 40lbs past the weight class he came in boxing in.

Manny starts at 108 and ends up champ at 154.

That's obviously never been done before and won't be anytime soon.

Floyd never left the United States in his entire career, and never even left Las Vegas for the past 12 years of it.

Manny on the other hand hasn't fought in the Phillippines for the past 12 years.

When they fought they were both past their primes in their mid 30s, Floyd was the better guy, yes, but that's at welterweight. Floyd's the naturally larger guy, and was fighting a lot closer to his natural weight than a guy who started at 108 lbs and has to gorge to make 147.

Manny's still fighting undefeated champions a decade younger than him, while Floyd is fighting MMA fighters & kickboxers.

When you start talking pound for pound you have to factor that stuff in

[Spoon23]

Less excellent, considering he never left the United States for any fight and never even left Vegas for the last 12 years of his career.

Floyd's a great fighter, but Manny's put in more work at this point

True, For 12 years Floyd has been the Golden goose of Vegas. He's protected there. WORLD Champions fight around the world. He can't even Lace it up outside his comfort zone. That ain't what champions are suppose to do. This is a global sport.

[Spoon23]

The problem with your logic of using heavyweights is that Manny fought Floyd 40lbs past the weight class he came in boxing in.

Manny starts at 108 and ends up champ at 154.

That's obviously never been done before and won't be anytime soon.

Floyd never left the United States in his entire career, and never even left Las Vegas for the past 12 years of it.

Manny on the other hand hasn't fought in the Phillippines for the past 12 years.

When they fought they were both past their primes in their mid 30s, Floyd was the better guy, yes, but that's at welterweight. Floyd's the naturally larger guy, and was fighting a lot closer to his natural weight than a guy who started at 108 lbs and has to gorge to make 147.

Manny's still fighting undefeated champions a decade younger than him, while Floyd is fighting MMA fighters & kickboxers.

When you start talking pound for pound you have to factor that stuff in

Even in the Thurman Pac fight Thurman was the naturally bigger guy. Even Thurman accepted the fact Pac was a Light weight fighting in the welterweight division. That's how you know Pac is doing more than he should.

Floyd is the naturally bigger than and yet he clinched and ran all night against a naturally small guy with a torn rotator cuff. That alone tells you how fuvked up that super fight was.

Look how Huge Floyd is.

Pac was little MAC in Punchout.

[Spoon23]

I thought Floyd lost the first time I saw it. Only been confirmed further by slow Mo and the like. He fought awfully, had to run the whole time. It was like Galahad vs Warrington except not as one sided even. One came to spoil, hold, turn and get off potshots. The other came to walk in, square up and scrap, thing is Pacquiao still landed more. I honestly thought it was a bit of a stalemate so a draw wouldn't have been disgraceful. But Floyd winning? Hell no, that was hometown cooking baby.

Yup. Even a blind man can see it was a close fight, and you know when there's a close fight a rematch is inevitable, but Floyd doesn't have the cohonez since 2015 to do that rematch. He's now a rusty old bucket that can't anymore. I don't want to see Pac beat up that old has been in a rematch. The ship has sailed. It's his fault he ducked a missed opportunity. Legends have trilogies. Floyd has none of that.

[aboutfkntime]

Oh really? I don't think you have any leg to stand on regarding such an argument but go ahead and make a case for yourself. The May Pac was closer than people say. I didn't think it would have been a clear win for either, a draw would've been fine. Not an insane thought seeing how dull and inactive the fight was overall. It was like a less one sided version of Warrington Galahad, not worth the watch in the end, a waste of everyone's time. Btw someone who abuses emojis, hashtags and gifs are the most annoying trolls. You know you can't articulate and no one agrees with you so you go ahead and add a self-affirming emoji to make it seem like you're laughing. You're staring at a screen with a blank face, ain't fooling nobody.

but that was a clear win

there is no " controversy " whatsoever

it appears that you see what you want to see..... like the other casuals

[aboutfkntime]

Less excellent, considering he never left the United States for any fight and never even left Vegas for the last 12 years of his career.

Floyd's a great fighter, but Manny's put in more work at this point

not when it comes to substance

also, he lost to Mayweather

also, all of those losses..... ?

[Johnwoo8686]

The problem with your logic of using heavyweights is that Manny fought Floyd 40lbs past the weight class he came in boxing in.

Manny starts at 108 and ends up champ at 154.

That's obviously never been done before and won't be anytime soon.

Floyd never left the United States in his entire career, and never even left Las Vegas for the past 12 years of it.

Manny on the other hand hasn't fought in the Phillippines for the past 12 years.

When they fought they were both past their primes in their mid 30s, Floyd was the better guy, yes, but that's at welterweight. Floyd's the naturally larger guy, and was fighting a lot closer to his natural weight than a guy who started at 108 lbs and has to gorge to make 147.

Manny's still fighting undefeated champions a decade younger than him, while Floyd is fighting MMA fighters & kickboxers.

When you start talking pound for pound you have to factor that stuff in

The problem with your logic is that you act as if Manny had to put on 40 pounds to get up to welterweight. 147 pounds is probably Manny's walking around weight right now. When Manny turned pro he was literally a child who's body was still developing. People are acting as if Manny's jump in weight is similar to Roy Jones literally adding weight to his matured frame and going up to heavyweight fighting much larger men. Manny is facing guys who, although bigger, are closer to his size.

When Floyd was 16 years old he fought at 106 pounds just as Manny did. The difference is Floyd was fighting in the amateurs because you are not allowed to turn pro at 16 in the United States, where in the Philippines you can.

Yes Manny beat Keith Thurman but we can't ignore the knockout losses to two nobodies early in his career. Or the knockout loss to a 39 year old Marquez. Or losing a decision to Jeff Horn, a guy who started boxing at 18.
We can't say he is greater than a guy who won titles in 5 weight classes without a single defeat and has a win over Manny himself.

[BoloShot]

but that was a clear win

there is no " controversy " whatsoever

it appears that you see what you want to see..... like the other casuals

No dude I'm not a Pac or Mayweather fan, I like neither because their fandoms are awful. But I recognise a close (and boring) fight when I see it. The fact people debate the result makes it a controversial one, I mean look up the definition of controversy man. For Christ's sake. That one had little to separate the two. Spoiling a fight by shutting down what the other guy does as often as possible doesn't mean you won it.

[hugh grant]

Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradley, morakes, barrera alone equates and deals with floyds entire worthwhile part of career and best wins.
You don't even need to bring Pac s additional wins into play over cotto, dlh, hatton, ssm and now thurman.
Pac s got the stronger in depth resume. Pac s best of era. With Pac the only discussion is where he ranks all time and how far behind you place floyd.

[Spoon23]

Pac s 8 wins over jmm, bradley, morakes, barrera alone equates and deals with floyds entire worthwhile part of career and best wins.
You don't even need to bring Pac s additional wins into play over cotto, dlh, hatton, ssm and now thurman.
Pac s got the stronger in depth resume. Pac s best of era. With Pac the only discussion is where he ranks all time and how far behind you place floyd.

Floyd is in the rear view mirror. Resume is not even close. Pac has done more challenges. Feats that cannot be broken for sometime or maybe never.. That's just the truth.