Mayweather takes a MASSIVE dive in the history books tonight (RIP floyd)

[hugh grant]

How about we discuss boxing and not make personal attacks like a 13 year old girl...

My God I've hit a nerve haven't i? What did I say that was out of line? I only said I'm sure people find you quite funny? If I said that to a comedian in sure they'd be pleased What's wrong with that?.Are you sure it's not my Floyd comments that upset you?

[CHOWWOKKA]

My God I've hit a nerve haven't i? What did I say that was out of line? I only said I'm sure people find you quite funny? If I said that to a comedian in sure they'd be pleased What's wrong with that?.Are you sure it's not my Floyd comments that upset you?

You hit a major nerve. I joined this website to discuss boxing not to be trolled by an immature child.

[hugh grant]

You hit a major nerve. I joined this website to discuss boxing not to be trolled by an immature child.

You LOL when Pac was face down against jmm. I think your character needs questioning, not mine.

[CHOWWOKKA]

You LOL when Pac was face down against jmm. I think your character needs questioning, not mine.

Hell yea that was funny. He was face down ass up like he was gonna get spooned again by his 3 ******* friends🤣🤣🤣

Not to mention the irony of accusing Marquez of being on PEDS because you know...he never tested positive.

🤣🤣🤣

[hugh grant]

Hell yea that was funny. He was face down ass up like he was gonna get spooned again by his 3 ******* friends🤣🤣🤣

Not to mention the irony of accusing Marquez of being on PEDS because you know...he never tested positive.

🤣🤣🤣

Well jmm is a funny one because at one point in pacs career the wind of pacs missed punches whizzing past his chin was enough to drop him. But in fourth fight jmm was planting feet taking a punch to get his punch in.? If jmm did that in first fight jmm wouldn’t have seen 2nd round. Plus jmm got zitty like teenager all of a sudden

[Johnwoo8686]

Again, when you're forced to take risks, bad things happen.

Manny's first loss came because he was forced to jump 2 weight classes and couldn't make the minimum weight, so he was forced to use heavier gloves, while keeping rocks in his pocket.

That's how desperate he was.

Floyd came in at 130 as a heralded Olympian and never left America and never left Las Vegas after 2006, where he was always the A-side and would always be guaranteed to get a decision

Does Floyd get the decision against Castillo anywhere else?

Or against Maidana somewhere else?

Maybe not.

That's why guys stay home. Just ask Lennox Lewis

Manny hasn't fought in the Philippines since 2006.

So, he got robbed against Horn in Australia

And he gets robbed against Bradley in Las Vegas.

That's going to happen,

Yes, he got knocked out badly by Marquez.

Roberto Duran got badly knocked out by Thomas Hearns, does that mean that he's not all-time great?

The majority of boxing historians have Roberto Duran ahead of Floyd Mayweather all-time. Do they not?

And we all know that Marquez was probably juicing.

Have you seen his body at 39 in comparison to where it was before?

Floyd is naturally the bigger guy

Manny was fighting at 112 at 19

Floyd was fighting at 130 at 19

Have you ever seen them stand next to each other?



He has to gorge to make 147.

Floyd walks around at around 160.

Ultimately, Floyd took the easier road.

He stayed in America.

He fought dudes either after they were at their most dangerous or before they were at their most dangerous in the last decade of his career.

And he got what he wanted, the money and the perfect record.

Manny took risks, through more weight classes, traveled all over, fought everybody, even when they were in their prime, and didn't duck anybody.

Yeah, he didn't keep his "0" and he didn't make as much money, but it should be more respected.

This post has a lot of flaws. Manny did not fight all the top guys when they were in their primes. Marquez was past his prime when he beat Manny, Floyd was past his prime when he beat beat Manny. Manny has said that he considers the win over De La Hoya to be the biggest win of his career and we all know Oscar was certainly over the hill at that point, as well as being weight drained by fighting at 145 pounds which is a weight he hadn't fought at in over 7 years.

How can you say Floyd took the easier road when he and Manny fought several of the same guys? Floyd fighting some of them before Manny did.

You say Floyd would not get the decision over Castillo or Maidana anywhere else which is not necessarily true. If he fought those guys in Latin america I agree they would have likely gotten the decision over him. But in places like the U.K. where they favor technical boxers and clean technique Floyd would have still got the decision over Castillo and Maidana who had crude styles. And Let's not act like Manny did not get a favorable decision over Marquez in their 3rd fight, a fight which many people thought he lost.

Not every website has Duran over Mayweather. Boxrec certainly doesn't have Duran placed over Mayweather. And ESPN certainly didn't have Manny placed over Mayweather either when they did their 25 best fighters of the last 25 years list.

[aAgger]

Watch Max Kellerman explain, back in 2016, why Pacquiao is a greater P4P GOAT than Mayweather:



(2:30 onwards)

Pacquiao captures the very essence of what "pound-for-pound" means in the first place. He captured the lineal title in five different weight classes (from flyweight to welterweight), a historic feat that has never been achieved before. The fact that Pacquiao, a former flyweight, is able to even compete with the best welterweights, is an unprecedented feat. He's the little guy beating up a bunch of bigger guys. That's what makes Pac a greater P4P GOAT.

[john l]

This post has a lot of flaws. Manny did not fight all the top guys when they were in their primes. Marquez was past his prime when he beat Manny, Floyd was past his prime when he beat beat Manny. Manny has said that he considers the win over De La Hoya to be the biggest win of his career and we all know Oscar was certainly over the hill at that point, as well as being weight drained by fighting at 145 pounds which is a weight he hadn't fought at in over 7 years.

How can you say Floyd took the easier road when he and Manny fought several of the same guys? Floyd fighting some of them before Manny did.

You say Floyd would not get the decision over Castillo or Maidana anywhere else which is not necessarily true. If he fought those guys in Latin america I agree they would have likely gotten the decision over him. But in places like the U.K. where they favor technical boxers and clean technique Floyd would have still got the decision over Castillo and Maidana who had crude styles. And Let's not act like Manny did not get a favorable decision over Marquez in their 3rd fight, a fight which many people thought he lost.

Not every website has Duran over Mayweather. Boxrec certainly doesn't have Duran placed over Mayweather. And ESPN certainly didn't have Manny placed over Mayweather either when they did their 25 best fighters of the last 25 years list.

Nice post!

[The D3vil]

bottom line: Pac NEVER solved the marquez-puzzle, despite having 4x attempts... but Mayweather aced it, first time

and no, Marquez did not set the blueprint... old Morales did

like I said, Pac has some excellent " highs "... he did not climb the mountains that Mayweather climbed... but he is exceptional, no question

but... those " lows " doe

it is not even close

FACT: you actually have to bank those high-end wins in the ring, not on paper... and, losing and getting KTFO does count... no matter how much you try to pretend it doesn't

Well, Duran & Ali don't agree with you.

[The D3vil]

This post has a lot of flaws. Manny did not fight all the top guys when they were in their primes. Marquez was past his prime when he beat Manny, Floyd was past his prime when he beat beat Manny. Manny has said that he considers the win over De La Hoya to be the biggest win of his career and we all know Oscar was certainly over the hill at that point, as well as being weight drained by fighting at 145 pounds which is a weight he hadn't fought at in over 7 years.

How can you say Floyd took the easier road when he and Manny fought several of the same guys? Floyd fighting some of them before Manny did.

You say Floyd would not get the decision over Castillo or Maidana anywhere else which is not necessarily true. If he fought those guys in Latin america I agree they would have likely gotten the decision over him. But in places like the U.K. where they favor technical boxers and clean technique Floyd would have still got the decision over Castillo and Maidana who had crude styles. And Let's not act like Manny did not get a favorable decision over Marquez in their 3rd fight, a fight which many people thought he lost.

Not every website has Duran over Mayweather. Boxrec certainly doesn't have Duran placed over Mayweather. And ESPN certainly didn't have Manny placed over Mayweather either when they did their 25 best fighters of the last 25 years list.

1. Manny fought Marquez 4x.

Of course he fought him in his prime, multiple times.

2. Manny fought De La Hoya & Mayweather when they were willing to fight him. They were the A-sides, who held all the cards.

3. Floyd took the easy road because he never left the confines of Las Vegas for the last 12 years of his career and never fought overseas. Also fighting guys before or after they were at their most dangerous.

4. Manny starting at 108 and having common opponents as Mayweather is a win for Pacquiao. Could you imagine Chocolatito and Danny Garcia having common opponents? Could you imagine Chocolatito being a 4x welterweight champion and beating undefeated welterweights at 40 years old?

5. I agree that Manny got a favorable decision in the 3rd fight after getting a crappy decision in the fight before due to a scoring error. Also, Manny didn't have to fight Marquez at all and could've just left the 3 fights alone.

6. Most all-time P4P lists have Duran over Mayweather. And I never said most of them have Pac over May. I said they have SIMILAR rankings on most lists, including the ESPN list that has Mayweather 1 & Manny 2.

That dude was arguing that they're not even in the same ballpark.

7. Crappy decisions happen everywhere. If Floyd fought overseas, chances are he gets robbed a few times just like Manny did. Was not possible in Las Vegas, which is why he never left