More impressive resume. Joe Calzaghe or marciano?
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Chris Eubank, Robin Reid, Byron Mitchell when he was good, Mario Veit when he was good, Jeff Lacy at his peak, Mikkel Kesser too, then Bernard Hopkins who was still very good and a fading but then still high level opponent Roy Jones Jr. Not the best of course but certainly a great career.Comment
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you said TOPTOP, not stand in from 2 divisions away at last minute notice. He wasnt even ranked in joes division.
actually I totally agree, good opponent! arguably a draw or loss mind you.Robin Reid
not when he was about to retire. another dodgy result though, and rematch refused once again., Byron Mitchell when he was good,
You have got to be kiddin me!Mario Veit when he was good
he was a joes first legit title capture so yes, i agree, emphatic win.Jeff Lacy at his peak
yesMikkel Kesser
2 good title level wins in 3 good opponents.
I guess if you define the word "some" as 2 then yes. Just a bit short of rockys atg career though!
not title defences.You DID say title defences.too, then Bernard Hopkins who was still very good and a fading but then still high level opponent Roy Jones Jr. Not the best of course but certainly a great career.Last edited by DreamFighter; 06-28-2019, 01:49 PM.Comment
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Calzaghe was undoubtedly #1 at 168 after he beat Lacey then Kessler.Kessler & Froch are entirely different fighters, Calzaghe NEVER fought someone with Froch's power+class and no a shot Eubank dropping 20lbs on a week's notice doesn't count.
Look at Maidana-Mayweather, nobody thought he'd stand a chance.
And I said Marciano was #1 in his division at that time, Joe wasn't, he may not have even been top 5.
You’re seriously deluded if you won’t admit that.Comment
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Lol did you not see a green Andre Ward beat the piss out of Kessler FAR more decisively than Joe? And Lacey, my god, the guy that nearly lost to 26-6 Sheika (b4 Joe) and Tsypko, now you're reaching.Comment
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Roy Jones still a high level opponent in 2009?????Chris Eubank, Robin Reid, Byron Mitchell when he was good, Mario Veit when he was good, Jeff Lacy at his peak, Mikkel Kesser too, then Bernard Hopkins who was still very good and a fading but then still high level opponent Roy Jones Jr. Not the best of course but certainly a great career.
Are you sure?????Comment
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I’d personally rate Ward higher than Joe myself. That same Kessler clearly beat Froch though...
What I’m disagreeing with is you suggesting Joe was not #1 at 168. During the mid 2000’s and specifically 06-08 he was undoubtedly #1 at 168. He was arguably the best super middleweight for the majority of the 2000’s tbf.Comment
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