Comments Thread For: Haye: Joshua Got Beat Up, He Looked Like He Didn't Want To Fight

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  • P4Pdunny
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    #41
    Originally posted by nick_viking
    That’s part of the issue, discussing what Joshua needs to do for the rematch with my friends, we almost came to the conclusion that he needs to learn how to box 😂

    Sounds silly for a world champ, but his fundamentals seemed to be so lacking and for such a big man he does not fight tall at all.

    I suggested he needs to ask Wlad for some tips, learn how to fight behind a jab like he did post the Sanders KO!
    Crazy you said that, cos I suggested the same thing to my friend. Get in Wlad for some tips, sparring.

    AJ has a size advantage over most but he gives up the advantages in his bouts.

    He could probably be abit lighter, and work hard on the conditioning. I’ve heard him say that he goes 15 rounds in the gym no stress so it could be performance anxiety that makes him gass out so much in these fights.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #42
      Didnt really get beat up. He got jumped on in the 3rd and the final round, about it. When he didnt fall into ruiz to let ruiz combo on him even while fighting lazily(he clearly didnt want to be there anymore after the 3rd, and it didnt have anything to do with stamina) he was easily outboxing ruiz just by keeping him at range.

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      • SplitSecond
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        #43
        Originally posted by P4Pdunny
        Crazy you said that, cos I suggested the same thing to my friend. Get in Wlad for some tips, sparring.

        AJ has a size advantage over most but he gives up the advantages in his bouts.

        He could probably be abit lighter, and work hard on the conditioning. I’ve heard him say that he goes 15 rounds in the gym no stress so it could be performance anxiety that makes him gass out so much in these fights.
        He didnt gas in this fight. It was a clear mental fold.

        People think a fighter is brave for just standing there and takingg a beating, but that is really easy. Real bravery is actually trying to win. Joshua was folding, he wasnt in the mood to put in the effort to win for whatever reason.

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        • nick_viking
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          #44
          Originally posted by P4Pdunny
          Crazy you said that, cos I suggested the same thing to my friend. Get in Wlad for some tips, sparring.

          AJ has a size advantage over most but he gives up the advantages in his bouts.

          He could probably be abit lighter, and work hard on the conditioning. I’ve heard him say that he goes 15 rounds in the gym no stress so it could be performance anxiety that makes him gass out so much in these fights.
          I always figured that was the eventual path for Joshua. Develop the jab, clinch and one two. But he often fights like the smaller man - very odd. Think how Fury would have approached Ruiz - can’t imagine Ruiz would lay a glove on him. Every time he used his speed he’d be tied up and wrestled around the ring.

          Performance anxiety is an interesting thought and would make a lot of sense given his struggles since becoming the man. Sack the sports psychologist in that case!

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            #45
            Originally posted by SplitSecond
            He didnt gas in this fight. It was a clear mental fold.

            People think a fighter is brave for just standing there and takingg a beating, but that is really easy. Real bravery is actually trying to win. Joshua was folding, he wasnt in the mood to put in the effort to win for whatever reason.
            i think they're linked though, mental fatigue can lead to physical fatigue aswell. He wasn't right in the mind, what he was saying, how he was moving. There was even a point in this fight where his hands were completely down, taunting Ruiz but still staying in range to be caught with shots.

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              #46
              Originally posted by P4Pdunny
              Lol, my bro sounded like he wanted to cry watching it. I can take a bad performance but it was like AJ forgot everything. Asking his trainer what shots hit him, what he hit Ruiz with, what will Ruiz do. He forgot basic boxing fundamentals it was so alarming.

              In a rematch, he needs to learn to tie up, work on his jab and not exchange or trade unless he KNOWS Ruiz is hurt. He was so eager to get outta NYC that as soon as he dropped Pete Griffin he just abandoned boxing common sense and paid the price for it.
              Bro I’m not going to lie it feel like there has been a death in the family. I haven’t been this upset since I told a girl that I’m a multimillionaire and had her round my house and I was ****** enough to leave my bank statements lying around and the eagle eyed chick saw my true bank balance and that was the last time I ever laid eyes on her....... B#itch

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                #47
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                I disagree David Haye at one point was nearly as big in terms of following, only difference is? David Haye was not politically correct and for me 'Devalued the mainstream fans' Anthony Joshua care's too much about the casual fans, who 70% of them now will probably slate him 'David Haye was undisputed cruiser weight champion and world heavyweight champion' still only two men have achieve such a feat, other fighter being Evander Holyfield.

                The Hayemaker to his credit, ended his career like a warrior he went until there was no more left 'Body breaking down' there is something beautiful/honorable about that.

                These Super-heavyweights are being exposed, if Haye's body did not break down? I think he would of beat Anthony Joshua, ****s out Tyson Fury to, Wilder is the most dangerous.
                hayes body broke down cause of massive PED abuse

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by nick_viking
                  I always figured that was the eventual path for Joshua. Develop the jab, clinch and one two. But he often fights like the smaller man - very odd. Think how Fury would have approached Ruiz - can’t imagine Ruiz would lay a glove on him. Every time he used his speed he’d be tied up and wrestled around the ring.

                  Performance anxiety is an interesting thought and would make a lot of sense given his struggles since becoming the man. Sack the sports psychologist in that case!
                  So true. Every time Joshua hit the canvas and got up with that silly smirk on his face its exactly the same smirk I use in the club when I ask for a Girls number and she says “no fu#ck off” you don’t know what the fu#ck to do but smile at anyone and everyone to let people know you are ok

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by el***
                    Haye only 38. If he didnt have so many injuries and slowed reflexes he could still be in the mix.
                    if Ali wasn't dead he would be in the mix

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by theman775
                      Y'all should not give up on him just yet. Sheesh!! he still has a rematch!!!
                      Ive got to distance myself from him as much as possible. Surely you don’t expect me to stay aboard a sinking ship I have a wife and kids...... and mistresses

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