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It’s so nice to see the joshua fans acting like real boxing fans for a change...not attacking other fighters, not obsessing with individual posters, not making outlandish claims of all time greatness, not attacking mangers, not treating promoters like g-ds among men, I must say....it’s quite different around here today. But then I suppose that’s what happens when men step on their Johnsons and have to eat a giant helping of humble pie. Well those who are 1, still posting, 2, haven’t deleted their accounts and adopted others or backups.....stay grounded young men, boxers come and go....
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Terms of the rematch including conditions and pay were agreed upon in the original contract. Usually the only flexibility in a rematch is the location, that's often up to the promoter but everything else is contractually set.
To those that say Ruiz will want more money or demand they fight in the US or Hearn will short split Ruiz...that's not how it works. Conditions of any rematch will are agreed upon in the original contract.
Hope this helps clear the conspiracy theories and confusion.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View PostI disagree David Haye at one point was nearly as big in terms of following, only difference is? David Haye was not politically correct and for me 'Devalued the mainstream fans' Anthony Joshua care's too much about the casual fans, who 70% of them now will probably slate him 'David Haye was undisputed cruiser weight champion and world heavyweight champion' still only two men have achieve such a feat, other fighter being Evander Holyfield.
The Hayemaker to his credit, ended his career like a warrior he went until there was no more left 'Body breaking down' there is something beautiful/honorable about that.
These Super-heavyweights are being exposed, if Haye's body did not break down? I think he would of beat Anthony Joshua, ****s out Tyson Fury to, Wilder is the most dangerous.
Haye only gained my respect after the Bellew fights, he died on his sword, fair play.
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[QUOTE=Noelanthony;19798851]For Triple what he made first time round.He was prepared to fight josh in the U.K. By the the time the fight comes around he will have several endorsements .[/QUOT
Dos Equis
Bimbo cakes
Taco Bell
And probably a starring role in he new Telenovela.
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Just another Wilder white walker.
Who are you kidding? Your statements could easily apply to that tribe of lunatics posting manufactured, false statements and far out weigh anything coming from the Joshua faithful. In the end, you sound like just another Wilder white walker.
Good luck selling that narrative...
Originally posted by Oldskoolg View PostIt’s so nice to see the joshua fans acting like real boxing fans for a change...not attacking other fighters, not obsessing with individual posters, not making outlandish claims of all time greatness, not attacking mangers, not treating promoters like g-ds among men, I must say....it’s quite different around here today. But then I suppose that’s what happens when men step on their Johnsons and have to eat a giant helping of humble pie. Well those who are 1, still posting, 2, haven’t deleted their accounts and adopted others or backups.....stay grounded young men, boxers come and go....
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Originally posted by Oldskoolg View PostIt’s so nice to see the joshua fans acting like real boxing fans for a change...not attacking other fighters, not obsessing with individual posters, not making outlandish claims of all time greatness, not attacking mangers, not treating promoters like g-ds among men, I must say....it’s quite different around here today. But then I suppose that’s what happens when men step on their Johnsons and have to eat a giant helping of humble pie. Well those who are 1, still posting, 2, haven’t deleted their accounts and adopted others or backups.....stay grounded young men, boxers come and go....
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Originally posted by Tecnoworld View PostThis. Why UK? Joshua is no longer the champion. Unless matchroom pays so much to Andy to convince him. I would not go to uk if I were him.
they box for money, so that would be the reason. sell out a soccer stadium and take a 50% split? why not, right?
ruiz would still need joshua, wilder, or fury to make it off of premium cable / PBC shows. maybe i'm wrong about that, but i don't think so. i don't thgink this guy will be a star overnight. maybe the mexican crowd gets behind him and i'm dead wrong.
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Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View PostI've been saying Joshua's chin is terrible for ages. Joshua *himself* confirmed he was knocked down by David Price, and Daniel Dubois *himself* confirmed that he knocked AJ down in sparring. Also Whyte knocked him down in their first fight before the pros.
I think Andy Ruiz had the attributes to beat him and AJ fought a reckless fight considering he had a massive reach advantage. Also Joshua has terrible recovery from being stunned - it takes him a few rounds to get his head back. We saw it in the Whyte and Klitrshcko fights but neither of them could jump on him straight after they hurt him.
AJ doesn't have as much power as people think. People who have fought him say he has a very hard left jab but his right hand punch is average.
I still think AJ is a good boxer but I can't think of any top-level heayweight who was successful with a poor chin. Maybe Wlad but he introduced that hug and smother style after he got Ko'd badly. Aj does train hard and lives the life but when you've got a poor chin, and poor recovery, what can you do? If Ali had that chin he would have lost half his fights.
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Originally posted by factsarenice View PostWho are you kidding? Your statements could easily apply to that tribe of lunatics posting manufactured, false statements and far out weigh anything coming from the Joshua faithful. In the end, you sound like just another Wilder white walker.
Good luck selling that narrative...
here's the thing:
"wilder fans" / americans have been much more realistic about this prospective matchup. they gave joshua a lot more credit than joshua fans gave to wilder. they were not wrong when they said that 12 million bucks is what joe parker made, and was an offer designed to push the fight off for 2 damn years.
here's the other thing:
AJ is the very best british HW that most of you have ever seen. lots of you are only here because the olympics were in GB, josh won a controversial gold, and eddie hearn converted soccer fans into boxing fans by creating a "party", big stadium atmosphere at joshua fights. when i was very young mike tyson was in his prime. when i was in grade school evander holyfield was the best HW on the planet. then rid**** bowe. before than we had joe f#cking frazier, george foreman, and muhammad f#cking ali
yall had lennox, who you really didn't even accept or like because he was less british than frank bruno! took years and years for you to accept him!
yall got some short memories . i'll even say that yall got some short lifespans. this is your first, and for many of you it's your last and you'll no longer care for boxing as much after your guy got knocked off the top.
just recognize that eddie hearn was primiarly responsible for the fight not happening in 2018 or 2019, and the reason it's going to happen in 2021 when both guys are past the best and wilder may have additionally lost to tyson fury.
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