Showtime Wilder vs Breazeale draws 791K viewers

[LacedUp]

Not great numbers, but in all honesty were you excited? This was a mismatch from the beginning and as I continuously said, Breazeale is complete crap.

now, Wilder did a terrific job obviously, but if I as a hardcore boxing fan can't get excited I don't see why the casual in the U.S should.

[bigdunny1]

Lmao lmao lmao.

Wilders check comes from Haymon boxing lololol. He made almost 18 mil from the fight. Showtime put up about 10 million. Haymon paid the rest out of his pocket.

You are clueless how it works. Events lose money all the time. Not every fox or espn or DAZN show makes money either.

Sometimes the promoter reaches into their own pocket to make to make a fight happen. In this case it was to stop wilder from going to DAZN.

It’s not the networks responsibility to pay a fighter’s purse. They buy a fight then the promoter and fighter make their deal on the purse. In this case Haymon got showtime to pay more than they’ve probably ever paid s fighter for a non ppv fight at about 10 mil.

I don't think Wilder made 18M the report was he was going to make close to 10M for the Breazalle fight. Not sure if Showtime paid the fee or Haymon came out of pocket for the fee maybe a combination of both. But whoever paid took a blood bath. They overpaid him simply to keep him from jumping at that DAZN offer but in the short term lost big time on Saturday for a fight that didn't do well at the box office and didn't draw Showtime ratings. But cost MORE money to pay wilder then both his last 2 showtime cards and that includes all the fighter purses...while drawing LESS ratings then each of those fights.

These 2 entire cards below were cheaper for Showtime then just paying Wilder on saturday to draw 791K viewers

Wilder vs Stiverne drew 824K viewers
Wilder vs Ortiz drew 1.1M viewers

[killakali]

I don't think Wilder made 18M the report was he was going to make close to 10M for the Breazalle fight. Not sure if Showtime paid the fee or Haymon came out of pocket for the fee maybe a combination of both. But whoever paid took a blood bath. They overpaid him simply to keep him from jumping at that DAZN offer but in the short term lost big time on Saturday for a fight that didn't do well at the box office and didn't draw Showtime ratings. But cost MORE money to pay wilder then both his last 2 showtime cards and that includes all the fighter purses...while drawing LESS ratings then each of those fights.

These 2 entire cards below were cheaper for Showtime then just paying Wilder on saturday to draw 791K viewers

Wilder vs Stiverne drew 824K viewers
Wilder vs Ortiz drew 1.1M viewers

he made over 17 mil. They had to pay or he was gone but Haymon dug into his own pocket after he got showtime to overpay over half of it

[KTFOKING]

u never answered my question. If you “sell” 15k tickets but you bought half or more of them is the gate number a legit number?

I mean of course, but tell me how many tickets Wilder/Fury promoters bought for the fight? Eddie Hearn is famous for doing this in the UK, but you don't just recklessly buy a bunch of tickets you can't give away for a fight like Wilder/Fury. They were going to do good sales regardless.

[killakali]

I mean of course, but tell me how many tickets Wilder/Fury promoters bought for the fight? Eddie Hearn is famous for doing this in the UK, but you don't just recklessly buy a bunch of tickets you can't give away for a fight like Wilder/Fury. They were going to do good sales regardless.

the best way to tell is look how many thousands of wilder fury tickets were available a few days before the fight then they mysteriously started setting snapped up. M

The fact wilder Breazeale wasnon groupon tells u everything U need to know

[KTFOKING]

the best way to tell is look how many thousands of wilder fury tickets were available a few days before the fight then they mysteriously started setting snapped up. M

The fact wilder Breazeale wasnon groupon tells u everything U need to know

So you don't have a number or even a guess?

That was a fight that was going to do good numbers with the traveling Brits regardless.

We're talking Wilder vs Fury or Wilder vs Breazeale?

[champion4ever]

Showtime put up about 10 million. Haymon paid the rest out of his pocket.

Sometimes the promoter reaches into their own pocket to make to make a fight happen. In this case it was to stop wilder from going to DAZN.

It’s not the networks responsibility to pay a fighter’s purse. They buy a fight then the promoter and fighter make their deal on the purse. In this case Haymon got showtime to pay more than they’ve probably ever paid s fighter for a non ppv fight at about 10 mil.

That's a new one to me; Please provide a source where Al Haymon paid Deontay Wilder more than $8 mil out of his own pocket for a non Showtime PPV Boxing card because I don't believe you.

Wilder's guarantee from his last pay per view card with Tyson Fury was only $4mil which did come out of Al Haymon own pocket because he produced the card and it exceeded the licensing fees and budget of the Showtime Championship Boxing series.

In addition, I get all that. The television networks have a contractual agreement with the promoters and not the fighters. Naturally, the fighters receive their pay from Al Haymon because the promoters receives a licensing fee for every card that the network produces for them.

Then the fighters receive their purse split from the promoter and then the promoter receives a percentage of the fighter's purse split. In this case, CBS increased their licensing fee, in order to keep Deontay Wilder on their network and to prevent him from signing with DAZN.

[Manlikefemi]

That's a new one to me; Please provide a source where Al Haymon paid Deontay Wilder more than $8 mil out of his own pocket for a non Showtime PPV Boxing card because I don't believe you.

Wilder's guarantee from his last pay per view card with Tyson Fury was only $4mil which did come out of Al Haymon own pocket because he produced the card and it exceeded the licensing fees and budget of the Showtime Championship Boxing series.

In addition, I get all that. The television networks have a contractual agreement with the promoters and not the fighters. Naturally, the fighters receive their pay from Al Haymon because the promoters receives a licensing fee for every card that the network produces for them.

Then the fighters receive their purse split from the promoter and then the promoter receives a percentage of the fighter's purse split. In this case, CBS increased their licensing fee, in order to keep Deontay Wilder on their network and to prevent him from signing with DAZN.

CBS did not pay it. CBS aren’t ******. Why would they give Wilder a one off payment of 10M and not have him signed to a contract with Showtime.

Wilder has leverage on Showtime, where he could just threaten to leave for DAZN and get more money out of CBS/SHO. Why would CBS agree to a deal like that ?

The money probably came from Haymon via Waddell And Reeds.

[blue_dolphin]

i dont give a sht about these numbers. everybody and their mama was talking about that KO and thats good for boxing.. Next

[champion4ever]

I don't think Wilder made 18M the report was he was going to make close to 10M for the Breazalle fight. Not sure if Showtime paid the fee or Haymon came out of pocket for the fee maybe a combination of both.

He's just bullshitting. He's a troll. He can't prove that Al Haymon personally, paid Deontay Wilder $8mil out of his own pocket for a non Showtime PPV card.

The only time a promoter reaches within his own pocket to pay a fighter is on Pay Per View; When the fighter's guarantee exceeds the television network's budget and licensing fee. Then the card is moved to PPV where the promoter produces it by assuming all of the financial risks.

This fight was produced by the Showtime Championship Boxing series; Where the fighter's get a licensing fee. So chances are Showtime increased their licensing fee in order to keep Deontay Wilder on their network and from signing with DAZN.