Why is Shelley Finkel obsessed with putting matchroom out of business?

[kafkod]

Are you sure you even know what a term sheet is? How many term sheets have you sent in your life?


A term sheet is a bullet-point document outlining the material terms and conditions of a business agreement.


A bullet-point document outlining the material terms and conditions of a business agreement is exactly what Wilder emailed to Hearn and Joshua. The term sheet included what the minimum guaranteed purse would be, who would decide where the fight would be held, the time frame for when the fight could take place, what the profit sharing would be, whether there could be intervening fights, whether there would be a rematch clause, etc.

Everything that would be expected in a typical boxing term sheet was included.




Whether you're mistaken or lying, the information you're posting is demonstrably false.

Wilder sent the 50 million offer on April 25, 2018. Here is an IFL video from weeks later:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppTrXXJRVIM

Eddie Hearn: "I went back to Al Haymon and asked him six or seven questions, of which they gave us the answers. Some were good answers, some were not so good answers. None were horrific answers."

"It's really a case of does Anthony want to take the fight in Las Vegas."

"There is more money, based on the offer, to do the fight in the US."

"The main thing to decide is are we prepared to go to America. If the answer is yes, we have to go back through the points and try to get it over the line."

"I haven't requested proof of funds."

"Wilder sent the 50 million offer on April 25, 2018. Here is an IFL video from weeks later:"

Reminder: The $50million offer sent by Wilder had a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline!


And you missed something important that Eddie said in that interview, which was that if they went through with the fight in the US there were things he needed to make sure of before any offer could be accepted ... "that AJ hasn't got obligations that he can't commit to, that there aren't rights that are infringed internationally across TV platfoms"

We now know that there would have been rights that were infringed internationally across TV platfoms. Because Finkel's offer would have meant AJ fighting Wilder on BT in the UK, which he was contractually unable to do.

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Reminder: The $50million offer sent by Wilder had a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline!

Reminder: The $12.5 million offer sent by Hearn had a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline!

Wilder's email literally copied & pasted the deadline from Hearn's offer to rub it in his face how ****** his deadline was.

Obviously nobody took the deadline seriously as WEEKS LATER Hearn was on IFL discussing the 50 million offer, saying it was real and that he was still negotiating the deal.

you missed something important that Eddie said in that interview, which was that if they went through with the fight in the US there were things he needed to make sure of before any offer could be accepted ... "that AJ hasn't got obligations that he can't commit to, that there aren't rights that are infringed internationally across TV platfoms"

We now know that there would have been rights that were infringed internationally across TV platfoms. Because Finkel's offer would have meant AJ fighting Wilder on BT in the UK, which he was contractually unable to do.

You're lying. Finkel was consistent from day 1 that Sky could have the fight as long as they matched BT's offer.

Hearn himself said all of his questions had been answered and none of the answers were deal breakers.

He only made up the BT stuff months later when Joshua was getting flack for turning down the fight. Since honesty didn't go over well with Joshua's fans, Hearn decided to start lying instead and it worked. Fanboys like you fell for it hook line and sinker.

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Reminder: The $12.5 million offer sent by Hearn had a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline!

Wilder's email literally copied & pasted the deadline from Hearn's offer to rub it in his face how ****** his deadline was.

Obviously nobody took the deadline seriously as WEEKS LATER Hearn was on IFL discussing the 50 million offer, saying it was real and that he was still negotiating the deal.




You're lying. Finkel was consistent from day 1 that Sky could have the fight as long as they matched BT's offer.

Hearn himself said all of his questions had been answered and none of the answers were deal breakers.

He only made up the BT stuff months later when Joshua was getting flack for turning down the fight. Since honesty didn't go over well with Joshua's fans, Hearn decided to start lying instead and it worked. Fanboys like you fell for it hook line and sinker.

"Finkle was consistent from day 1 that Sky could have the fight as long as they matched BT's offer"

"He only made up the BT stuff months later when Joshua was getting flack"

Hahahahahahaha

Do you even know what you're writing any more? How could he make it up when that is exactly what Finkle was doing?

You've been schooled yet again in this thread but continue like a zombie who won't die.

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Do you even know what you're writing any more? How could he make it up when that is exactly what Finkle was doing?

Months later, Hearn made up the excuse that BT was financing the fight, which wasn't true. Showtime was financing the fight.

Hearn and Haymon had already worked things out with Sky. The fight was going to be on Sky and Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the agreement Espinoza posted.

The fight didn't happen because Joshua decided to take less money to fight at home. Plain and simple. That is what Hearn himself said. Only when fans got mad at Joshua did Hearn start making up excuses so Joshua could save face.

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Months later, Hearn made up the excuse that BT was financing the fight, which wasn't true. Showtime was financing the fight.

Hearn and Haymon had already worked things out with Sky. The fight was going to be on Sky and Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the agreement Espinoza posted.

The fight didn't happen because Joshua decided to take less money to fight at home. Plain and simple. That is what Hearn himself said. Only when fans got mad at Joshua did Hearn start making up excuses so Joshua could save face.

You mean the "Agreement" that Espinoza didn't post?

You believe all these lies but want to push the agenda that Hearn is the one at fault here?

You don't know anything. Back all this up with facts or keep it closed.

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You mean the "Agreement" that Espinoza didn't post?

Espinoza posted the section pertaining to TV distributors, which stated Sky got the UK rights.

Espinoza doesn't have to post the entire agreement for us to know that clearly Hearn was lying about BT showing the fight. If that were the case, Hearn would have complained about BT during negotiations, not months later once he'd already turned down the fight and needed new excuses.

[kafkod]

Reminder: The $12.5 million offer sent by Hearn had a 24 hour take it or leave it deadline!

Wilder's email literally copied & pasted the deadline from Hearn's offer to rub it in his face how ****** his deadline was.

Obviously nobody took the deadline seriously as WEEKS LATER Hearn was on IFL discussing the 50 million offer, saying it was real and that he was still negotiating the deal.




You're lying. Finkel was consistent from day 1 that Sky could have the fight as long as they matched BT's offer.

Hearn himself said all of his questions had been answered and none of the answers were deal breakers.

He only made up the BT stuff months later when Joshua was getting flack for turning down the fight. Since honesty didn't go over well with Joshua's fans, Hearn decided to start lying instead and it worked. Fanboys like you fell for it hook line and sinker.

"Finkle was consistent from day 1 that Sky could have the fight as long as they matched BT's offer"

"He only made up the BT stuff months later when Joshua was getting flack"

Hahahahahahaha

Do you even know what you're writing any more? How could he make it up when that is exactly what Finkle was doing?

You've been schooled yet again in this thread but continue like a zombie who won't die.

This joker is fckn unreal!

He posted a video of Frank Warren clearly saying that BT were funding Finkel's $50 million offer because they wanted control of the screening rights.

He said it proved that Finkel was only asking Frank's advice about that.

Now he's posted a video of Eddie Hearn clearly saying that he asked Haymon 6 questions about a US fight, and got 6 answers, some good, some bad, and that if he decides to pursue the offer there are other important issues which still need clarfying - one of them being which TV networks would have the screening rights to the fight outside the US.

He says this proves that .... "Hearn himself said all of his questions had been answered and none of the answers were deal breakers."

He reminds me of the guy in the pet shop in this Monty Python sketch!

[kafkod]

Espinoza posted the section pertaining to TV distributors, which stated Sky got the UK rights.

Espinoza doesn't have to post the entire agreement for us to know that clearly Hearn was lying about BT showing the fight. If that were the case, Hearn would have complained about BT during negotiations, not months later once he'd already turned down the fight and needed new excuses.

Hearn didn't know about BT's involvement at that point. In the video you posted in this thread, Eddie clearly says that the question of international screening rights would need clarifying before he could accept any offer for a US fight involving AJ.

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Hearn didn't know about BT's involvement at that point. In the video you posted in this thread, Eddie clearly says that the question of international screening rights would need clarifying before he could accept any offer for a US fight involving AJ.

Finkel asked Frank Warren what he thought the UK rights were worth. Frank asked BT what they would pay for the fight. That was the extent of BT's "involvement."

Finkel ended up talking to Sky and Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the contract.

So what is the problem?

[EnglishOxide]

Wilder's email literally copied & pasted the deadline from Hearn's offer to rub it in his face how ****** his deadline was.

From: l33tbomsqwad@hotmail.com
"Yo did is Deyonce mayne, I'll fite ya boy AGay on Shotym on a d8 of ma choosin in a venu of ma choosin and yo boi. U gots 24 hours to except FROM DIS DAY, and he can hav 50mill 2 knowmsayin? Itz in da bag mayn. If u don't except in 24 hours I gotz opponts lined up for 4 hunnit years cos Al Hymen sayz im ma own boss muh****er. BOOOOMVVZQWAD!!!???"

Seems like a legit way to do business.

Finkel ended up talking to Sky and Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the contract.

So what is the problem?

The problem is there was no fucking contract.

You yourself stated that a term sheet needed to be agreed before a contract is written out. Now you're saying there's a contract?

The one that Espinoza refused to post on Twitter when Hearn dared him to?

Oh, and I'm still waiting for you to confirm that Showtime beat DAZN and signed Klitschko and he will fight Deyonce next. Don't pretend you didn't say that about a month back. If plans have changed or you were lying then just say so.