Why is Shelley Finkel obsessed with putting matchroom out of business?

[kafkod]

... I got it the first time around... but...

... then we go again to "venues"... Hearn wants it at the Wembley stadium (and Sky) while Haymon wants it in the U.S. (and Showtime)...

That same insider told me Showtime project it would easily clear 2million PPVs at $89 each, US prime time.

And Haymon has cut a deal with Spinoza that ST would only take 30% of the gross income, instead of the normal 50%.

Add the Vegas gate and site fee, and the fight has to be in US, no question.

AJ and Wilder just need to not get beat before Skipper fires Eddie.

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[Sid-Knee]

Of course he did. One of his first questions was about UK broadcast rights. Finkel said they go to highest bidder. Finkel said what BT was offering, Finkel talked to the head of Sky and worked things out. Sky was listed as the broadcaster in the agreement. It was only months later, after Hearn had already admitted Joshua turned down the fight because he wanted to fight in the UK, that Hearn decided to trick everyone and blame things on BT.

He tried the truth, it didn't go over well. So he made up a lie and it worked great. This is why Hearn lies so much. The fans have taught him that lying is the way to go.

Hearn would just need to tell Finkle that it can't go to the highest bidder because he's signed with Sky you idiot. He wouldn't need anything else, it speaks for itself.

Finkle talked to the head of Sky? When did this happen?

You can't prove anything when it comes to Hearns supposed lies. But Finkle has been proven a liar when he contradicted himself by saying they never accepted the 15 Mill offer even though weeks before hand he did.

I loved it last time when you tried to show me Hearn lying and gave me him having an opinion on whether Showtime would be around after a year or so. Remember that? Haha. That wasn't a lie. That's an opinion you drip. Care to give me these lies again so I can laugh at your mental illness on display like all the other freaks and weirdos on here?

[Sid-Knee]

You're so quick to label me an idiot, but how sure are you that you're not the idiot? I'm so sure that I would gladly wager you $100,000 that I would score higher than you on an IQ test. Let me know if you'd like to accept my offer.

Separate from that, you clearly have absolutely no knowledge, insight or experience pertaining to standard practices of fight negotiations. I've been negotiating fights for 20 years, so let me point out a few things.

Promoters accept offers all the time that entail their fighter taking a one off elsewhere. Either their broadcasting agreement has outs for certain circumstances, or they negotiate permission for a one off so they can accept the offer.

You can't demand 50 million AND retain UK rights. That would be absolutely ludicrous. So for Wilder to come up with the 50 million, he obviously needs to maximize the value of the UK rights to have any shot at breaking even on the deal.

When Joshua fights on PPV, depending on the level of the opponent, Sky and Joshua negotiate certain guarantees, marketing budgets, etc. Sky isn't entitled to each Joshua fight for a set fee. Every PPV is its own negotiation. Had Joshua accepted the 50 million, the Wilder side would be getting the money from Sky, not the Joshua side. The only way to ensure that Sky offered fair numbers is to present BT's offer.

Since Sky is listed as the broadcaster in the contract Espinoza posted, clearly Sky wanted the fight more than BT.

Thanks for repeating the same nonsense about your promoting career. One day I hope it takes off for you.

Now, when did Finkle talk to the head of Sky? Where are all these Hearn lies you keep talking about? Are they the same ones that were exposed on here every time a fool tried? Sure, lets have some more fun in exposing them for the hundredth time. Why not.

[creekrat77]

Because with HBO now deceased and DAZN's Netflix like model on a tear, they fear it might be the bitter end for PPV.
The fact that Canelo screvved Showtime over for HBO and even HBO couldn't remain alive with him means Showtime is at a huge disadvantage with no superstars. Wilder is their golden goose as well as maybe Tank Davis. Spence too I suppose. The PBC guys still there are company men to the bitter end. In Spence case, it probably makes sense to stay since they stay rolling out the red carpet for him. But Deontay and Tank? They should gtfo. Deontay's management clearly can't compete with Joshua's and there is just no inspiration or competence. Tank seems more aware. They're making big promises and swear up and down how he will get all these opportunities. Well any objective person can see that doesn't sound likely with how the other next "Mayweathers" have been handled. Vitali, Wlad, Haye, etc are all guys Wilders team should have been grinding to make a fight with. Unfortunately they showed no rapidity and stayed in their holes in a cold war with seemingly everyone.

[Sid-Knee]

If you think it's nonsense, bet me. I can make you a very wealthy man if you're telling the truth.

You want to bet me 100,000 that you have a higher IQ than me? Have you heard yourself with all these silly bets you offer?

Show me that Finkle met with the head of Sky. Also show me these Hearn lies. What part of this don't you understand?