Truth of Myth: 'Wilder is avoiding Joshua' ?

[QueensburyRules]

Have you heard Lewis talk about AJ in recent times?
Hez faced with reality now and hez bottled.
He must be feeling ****** for all the things he said about AJ.

- -Funny in that I briefly worked with the higher spectrum of mentally challenged and they know they ain't all there, but Lenny to ****** to admit he's ******.

Sad that.

[Bmore18]

Showtime believes it easily clears 1.5 million buys at $89.99 in HD. PBC has a 70% take from the PPV companies now, so that's $100 million from US PPV revenue alone.

Throw in UK PPV, live gate, foreign rights, sponsorships, delayed broadcast rights, etc and you're talking approximately $150 million in the pot for the fighters.

That's 75 million per fighter on a 50/50 split. For one fight. Joshua has more belts and does deserve more money, so even if it's 85 million for Joshua and 65 million for Wilder, you start to quickly see why DAZN offering 40 million isn't as enticing.

Wow easily 1.5 million buys?? I'll buy it regardless, but damn that is some expectation to easily hit 1.5m. You lay out a great argument on how PPV would make easily the most money for the fighters (although Id rather have it at $20, I see it from their side)

[kafkod]

I hope that is them trying to milk the situation even more. The more you say no the more they pay you. I simply don't see what bigger money options they are out there unless Showtime is going to overpay Wilder which would be a big mistake. He has all that power but he doesn't have the skills or the age for longevity.

I find it funny that people are still getting their hopes up, Team Wilder clearly started that they have three fights next as priority. Ortiz rematch, Kownacki and Fury rematch (No sure in which other).

Team Joshua have been vocal that they want it next, if the real fans want to see that undisputed fight then they would get on both teams back to sit down after their next fights and work out a deal.

Pretending that Team Wilder is playing games and there is too much money for them not to want it is very naive. Team Wilder history has shown that they don’t want the fight.

They complain about the 15m dollars contract about no date or venue, they didn’t want that fight, why? Because they signed Fury fight right away without a date or venue. Until fans stand up against Team Wilder then they would always find their way out of the undisputed fight.

$80million guaranteed for 2 fights is an incredibly good offer, especially considering the kind of money Wilder has been fighting for so far in his career.

If he really intends to fight AJ, he's taking a huge gamble by not doing it now, while the money is there on the table for him. He came very close to losing his last 2 fights, and most people think he should have lost to Fury. That's what makes me suspect that the people pulling his strings don't want him to fight AJ, ever.

[kafkod]

Showtime believes it easily clears 1.5 million buys at $89.99 in HD. PBC has a 70% take from the PPV companies now, so that's $100 million from US PPV revenue alone.

Throw in UK PPV, live gate, foreign rights, sponsorships, delayed broadcast rights, etc and you're talking approximately $150 million in the pot for the fighters.

Business people don't gamble with that kind of money. If Showtime and Haymon really believed the fight was as lucrative as that they would have tabled an offer for it yesterday.

And they wouldn't be refusing to talk to Eddie Hearn about it either.

[N/A]

Wow easily 1.5 million buys?? I'll buy it regardless, but damn that is some expectation to easily hit 1.5m. You lay out a great argument on how PPV would make easily the most money for the fighters (although Id rather have it at $20, I see it from their side)

I would rather it be on DAZN. Saves me money.

But I have no doubt the fighters would make more on PPV.

[Ray*]

$80million guaranteed for 2 fights is an incredibly good offer, especially considering the kind of money Wilder has been fighting for so far in his career.

If he really intends to fight AJ, he's taking a huge gamble by not doing it now, while the money is there on the table for him. He came very close to losing his last 2 fights, and most people think he should have lost to Fury. That's what makes me suspect that the people pulling his strings don't want him to fight AJ, ever.

Well they would try and convince you that they wanted the fight on PPV. Fact is they had guaranteed money on the table. That money is more or less what they would earn even if they wanted another two years and the PPV sold 1.5m upwards. So why not take the guarantee money now? They don’t want the fight.

[Laligalaliga]

He won't fight AJ this year, for any amount of money, because DAZN refuses to say how much money is in the pot and refuses to guarantee that if Wilder signs, he gets the Joshua fight.

There's a very good chance DAZN may opt out of their Matchroom deal next year. So Wilder may wait things out since DAZN is playing games.

the last time you said wilder should wait for 5yrs so Eddie's DAZN contract will expire and the fight done on ppv.
You are just too scared like a sisi.
Wait for another 5yrs?

[Real King Kong]

Showtime believes it easily clears 1.5 million buys at $89.99 in HD. PBC has a 70% take from the PPV companies now, so that's $100 million from US PPV revenue alone.

Throw in UK PPV, live gate, foreign rights, sponsorships, delayed broadcast rights, etc and you're talking approximately $150 million in the pot for the fighters.

That's 75 million per fighter on a 50/50 split. For one fight. Joshua has more belts and does deserve more money, so even if it's 85 million for Joshua and 65 million for Wilder, you start to quickly see why DAZN offering 40 million isn't as enticing.

it's still a roll of the dice, and why isn't wilder's team coming back with a 85mil offer to aj if they're so confident in those numbers?

[champion4ever]

He has moved on from Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua get it! There's no guarantee that this fight happens this year, in 2020 or ever.

Deontay Wilder is just not feeling that fight anymore. He'll fight Tyson Fury before he fights Anthony Joshua. So British fans you guys just need to get over it. I know I have.

As a fan I will support any decision that he makes. Whether he decides to fight AJ or No-J.

[N/A]

Business people don't gamble with that kind of money.

What is your business experience exactly?

If Showtime and Haymon really believed the fight was as lucrative as that they would have tabled an offer for it yesterday.

They've made repeated offers and been told the fight is on DAZN or there's no fight.