Canelo proves without doubt he is the best middleweight since Hagler

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  • lizard_man
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    #81
    Originally posted by Phenom
    Martinez had spectacular knockouts against top MW Canelo seems to be in a close controversies everytime he fights top guy

    Martinez was easily the more dominant champion before his legs were gone


    Martinez is the most overrated 160 lber ever.

    Because he beat a 147 paul williams after two fights?

    Because he beat pavlik? The same pavlik that grandpa Hopkins destroyed like a red headed step child? Martinez is a bum and got his azz whooped by an over the hill midget cotto. But all of a sudden "his legs are gone"

    This is the same martinez that almost got knocked the fck out by chavez jr who didn't even train for the fight. He was eating cheerios in his pink underwater instead of training. Doing mitts in his living room for 15 minutes and he almost knocked him clean out in the 12 th round.

    Canelo toyed with chavez jr.


    Martinez fought bum after bum got his azz whipped by Margarito. Come on man stop it.

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    • Nay_Sayer
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      #82
      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
      Pavlik and Williams are limited fighters without skills.

      Those fighter would be easy wins to Nelo.
      Pavlik has a better resume @ 160 than anyone Canelo has beaten, the Triple Duck included...

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        #83
        Originally posted by fistic flow
        Hearns, Nunn, McCallum, Toney, Jones, Hopkins, McClellan, Martinez... yeah, the best since Hagler - SMH
        Exactly.

        The OP is beyond asinine.

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #84
          Originally posted by lparm
          He’s beaten the two fighters seen as the best 2 middleweights and now holds all the belts that matter.

          No mw since prime Hagler has had the balls of Canelo and he deserves the status as the best 73kg/160lbs lad on the planet.
          If he beats Saunders, Charlo and Andrade then I think you can make this statement. Canelo is without a doubt the best MW right now but beating those 3 completely cleans out the division.

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            #85
            Originally posted by lparm
            Jones wasn’t the long enough to be great

            He beat a fat Toney
            Jones beat Toney @ 168 - and there is nothing - NOTHING - on Canelo's resume that is even in the same solar system as Jones' schooling of a PRIME James Toney.


            Originally posted by lparm
            and a very green Hopkins

            Who else?

            Canelo beat a prime G and Jacobs
            LMAO

            The Hopkins who Jones beat would remain undefeated for another DECADE after that loss. GTFOOHWTBS....

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              #86
              Originally posted by lparm
              Canelo is faster and stronger than Hop

              So many forget how Taylor used his speed to get his punches off first
              Hopkins was *40* years old in the Taylor fights.

              Early 30s Hopkins beats the brakes off of Taylor and Canelo on the same night...

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                #87
                Originally posted by lparm
                Ok perspective list 2 prime 160 elite guys RJJ beat at that weight

                And they had better be at least as elite as G and Jacobs or I’m calling bullshyte on your already paper thin argument
                Jacobs and Golovkin are NOT elite middleweights.

                They.Are.Just.Not.

                That said, Jones has the win over Hopkins - who proved more @ 160 than Bumlovkin or Jacobs ever will...

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                • Mexican_Puppet
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by lizard_man


                  Martinez is the most overrated 160 lber ever.

                  Because he beat a 147 paul williams after two fights?

                  Because he beat pavlik? The same pavlik that grandpa Hopkins destroyed like a red headed step child? Martinez is a bum and got his azz whooped by an over the hill midget cotto. But all of a sudden "his legs are gone"

                  This is the same martinez that almost got knocked the fck out by chavez jr who didn't even train for the fight. He was eating cheerios in his pink underwater instead of training. Doing mitts in his living room for 15 minutes and he almost knocked him clean out in the 12 th round.

                  Canelo toyed with chavez jr.


                  Martinez fought bum after bum got his azz whipped by Margarito. Come on man stop it.
                  Exactly

                  Pavlik and Williams would be easy wins to Nelo

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                  • Mexican_Puppet
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                    #89
                    1-Hagler

                    2-B-Hop

                    3-Canelo

                    But Canelo can be the #2 with the time

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                      1-Hagler

                      2-B-Hop

                      3-Canelo

                      But Canelo can be the #2 with the time
                      Ummm Carlos Monzon?????????????????

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