Comments Thread For: Ortiz, Trainer Angered Over Promoter's Handling of Joshua Talks

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  • TreJac
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    #81
    They took advantage of him! Non-English speaking fighter who put his trust into his handlers!
    Last edited by TreJac; 04-26-2019, 03:30 PM.

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    • TreJac
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      #82
      What else is new!

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      • JohnCastellanos
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        #83
        GTFOH! How’s this a rookie mistake! Nobody makes these kind of errors! You guys know damn well Ortiz was stalling because he knows damn well he’s on steroids and can’t fight anyways! “Oh Well” rookie mistake, “we’ll get another chance!” GTFOH with that BS

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        • MrShakeAndBake
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          #84
          Ortiz is old as real King Kong, he is literally a fight away from being KOed and retired , a major phuck up on his side not to take this fight lol OR maybe just maybe he priced himself out because he was in the middle of his PEDs cycle and had no other choice
          Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 04-26-2019, 03:31 PM.

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #85
            Get the **** outta here. The promoters the fall guy, any one who believes this crap is a clown. That fat cuban diva stopped the fight from happening, noone else.

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            • TreJac
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              #86
              This looks to be the pbc way of business! Everything is done to try and sink other promotional companies!

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              • Eff Pandas
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                #87
                Originally posted by lolasif
                If team Ortiz actually want the fight, they will go back to Hearn. If they don't it will prove that Ortiz didn't really want the fight at all.
                I don't think you understand this situation.

                Eddie, Ortiz & his manager can't decide upon sh^t without the signing off of the fight on an agreed upon offer that Ortiz's Promoter thinks makes sense to him.

                Ortiz & his manager can pressure or shame the Promoter into accepting the offer cuz the Promoter making $2M of the $7M offer (I'm pretty sure thats what Eddie implied/hinted at cuz Eddie denied $5M was the offer, but obviously Eddie knows the business & that his offer isn't the offer Ortiz's was getting offered & Eddie isn't trying to get into these other mfers business like that here) does seem more than fair for the promoter lol.

                This situation got a whole lot crazier cuz I wasn't even aware Ortiz HAD a f#cking promoter. I'm looking back at articles today & am seeing Dade Promotions being brought up in a lot of Ortiz's deals. But I guess I overlooked that cuz wtf is Dade any f#cking way. Dade looks to me like one of these bs "promoters" that doesn't even put on fights or I've not found a show they've put on anyway.

                These f#cking Cuban guys always signing with legit sham promoters lol. Rigo had one of these promoters that don't put on fights situations for a long ass time too (& may still idr if it ended or not).

                Rule 1 of signing with a promoter. Make sure he's a promoter who actually does f#cking shows or you are basically just hiring a extra manager middleman-like guy whos not even looking out for your 100% best interest like a manager who's getting a piece of what you get. These fake ass promoters are giving fighters a piece of what THEY can get off of your accomplishments.
                Last edited by Eff Pandas; 04-26-2019, 03:36 PM.

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                • champion4ever
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                  #88
                  Now at this point, I don't know who's telling the truth. His trainer sounds very convincing to me. One thing fighters need to learn is how to take charge over their own careers.

                  They have to understand that they are their own boss. The promoters and managers work for them and not the other way around.

                  I believe Ortiz should have taken this fight; Turning it down was a mistake.

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                  • sanapuki
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                    #89
                    Theres no way ortiz wouldn't have taken the fight for the money being offered, especially at the stage of his career. Doesnt matter whether he thinks he will win or not - he would be fighting for that pay check. Basically, the guys on PED, would never have passed VADA and this is a way of saving face.

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                    • bigdunny1
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                      #90
                      Sounds likes Dade Promotions really phuked Ortiz on this one. Not like we haven't said that before. Why oh oh why do these cubans sign with this small sketchy as promotions giving away their entire life. Whoever signs Ortiz has to constantly deal with Dade Promotions meddling. When manager and fighter saying their own promotions isn't telling them offers and making up lies that Ortiz isn't in shape which fighter and manager have to come out and dispute. Lord it's a shyt show I kind of feel sorry for Ortiz these clowns have been sabotaging his career from day 1. 500K career high payday at age 40 says all you need to know. Yet these idiots tried to big time Hearn and extort more money at the expense of their own client. lmao

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