If Ortiz doesnt take the AJ fight hes a certified HOE

[Laligalaliga]

Tyson Fury actually ended up with something like $10m, but whatever.

Deontay Wilder is now a PPV fighter, his PPV audience is growing, and he was able to clear something like $25m on his first PPV event.

Even if the split is 80/20 Wilder, matching the revenue from the debut PPV gets Ortiz the $5m off top.

Hahahahahaha, you are such a funny guy. I kinda like you, you will make a good comedian.
Wilder a ppv star, are you kidding me?
25mil? Hope you are not high on something? Where did you get all these figures from?
I can't stop laughing to be honest.
Wilder is fighting next on a regular TV after fury gave him his first ever ppv after 40 fights.

Nigqas you need to cool off man, am sure you are hot inside.

[Laligalaliga]

Either a boogeyman or a greedy man, there's an argument out there for both points of view.

There is no argument what's so ever. Who ever steps up is still getting KOed. Non of those baby HW's will get this kind of opportunity again for a massive pay without AJ.
Like Julian Jackson will say, they are all chickens running from the hawk.
That's exactly what's happening at HW right now.
Even their saviour wilder is on the run.

[Laligalaliga]

Dude read slower. Nobody is talking about AJ fighting without a rematch clause. We were talking about Ortiz not taking the fight due to options in the contract or perhaps stipulations in the rematch clause kind of like with the Wilder negotiations where he would make the same in a rematch. Nobody would take that kind of deal if they beat the champion and have to do a rematch and are not compensated with more than what they earned in the first fight. If you're a manager or promoter you wouldn't even entertain that for your guy, not if you are a good one anyway.

Now you seems slow more than I expected.
What rubbish are you talking about? You want us to work with information you got from assumptions and thoughts in your mind to be why Ortiz is not taking this fight. Do you think you are communicating with ******s on this forum?

Have Ortiz come out to alter a word? Is he out from his hiding place? How did you know what's in the contract?

You better know the kind of silly defence you put up here before you get blasted out in 1 round.

These guys are just chickens running from the hawk.
That's all.

[Laligalaliga]

Both are trash when it comes to mandatory fights, especially if the champion is a draw, they'll let him keep putting it off to get those hefty sanctioning fees. While their rankings are usually trash, the IBF is the best when it comes to enforcing mandatory fights

I kinda agree with you on WBC been trash but dnt ever compare WBA to WBC in ordering mandatories.
WBC orders one mandatory in about 3/4 years, that's because Fury signed to ESPN. Breazeale wouldn't have gotten his shot until probably 2020/2021.

So when you want to talk about mandatories, leave WBC out of it. I rate them worst.
Thank you.

[daggum]

Tyson Fury actually ended up with something like $10m, but whatever.

Deontay Wilder is now a PPV fighter, his PPV audience is growing, and he was able to clear something like $25m on his first PPV event.

Even if the split is 80/20 Wilder, matching the revenue from the debut PPV gets Ortiz the $5m off top.

he is a ppv fighter and his audience is growing and thats why his next fight isn't on ppv? he didnt make 25 million where the hell did you pull that from?

[Rip Chudd]

Now you seems slow more than I expected.
What rubbish are you talking about? You want us to work with information you got from assumptions and thoughts in your mind to be why Ortiz is not taking this fight. Do you think you are communicating with ******s on this forum?

Have Ortiz come out to alter a word? Is he out from his hiding place? How did you know what's in the contract?

You better know the kind of silly defence you put up here before you get blasted out in 1 round.

These guys are just chickens running from the hawk.
That's all.

The whole point of my post which responded to Eff Pandas was that we don't know what is in the contract and there could be something more to it than just Ortiz not taking the money. How this has gone over your guy's head is beyond me but reading comprehension isn't a strong suit on this site. We didn't say we knew what was in it, but that judgement should be reserved because there could be a number of things in there. That is it, point blank. So miss me with all this other crap you fools are talking about. I'll wait til the details come out because nobody on this forum knows anything about the negotiations or the contracts.

[Rip Chudd]

I kinda agree with you on WBC been trash but dnt ever compare WBA to WBC in ordering mandatories.
WBC orders one mandatory in about 3/4 years, that's because Fury signed to ESPN. Breazeale wouldn't have gotten his shot until probably 2020/2021.

So when you want to talk about mandatories, leave WBC out of it. I rate them worst.
Thank you.

As I said, all orgs are trash outside of the IBF. You hating the WBC more doesn't make it worse, they all suck.

[Ray*]

Still haven’t heard much from ortiz, this is hugely disappointing, imagine if he wins, he gets another rematch, mega payday for his daughter. And even if he loses he would still make 7/8 times what he would make in a future Wilder rematch.

[Laligalaliga]

The whole point of my post which responded to Eff Pandas was that we don't know what is in the contract and there could be something more to it than just Ortiz not taking the money. How this has gone over your guy's head is beyond me but reading comprehension isn't a strong suit on this site. We didn't say we knew what was in it, but that judgement should be reserved because there could be a number of things in there. That is it, point blank. So miss me with all this other crap you fools are talking about. I'll wait til the details come out because nobody on this forum knows anything about the negotiations or the contracts.

am stepping over this.... It's pointless.

[BostonGuy]

Give the old man some time to cleanse his body, he wasn't expecting a blood test this soon.

I'm thinking this as well. Maybe Ortiz is back on the juice and he can't it cycled out of his system before the inevitable PED test.