If Ortiz doesnt take the AJ fight hes a certified HOE

[Rip Chudd]

Depends on the money. If they are lowballing him I don't think its a bad move to pass. What a lowball offer to a guy as old as Ortiz is is debatable doe cuz at this point the sun is setting on his career by the day so he needs to do something even if the offer isn't the sexiest. Or more than likely the rematch terms are garbage & limit him too much to make his career upside to be lower than if he just waited a lil longer or at least its a gamble that has some allure.

So nah no one is a certified nothing over not accepting a fight when we don't know the details. Contract sh^t ain't a fun discussion, but its a relevant fact for the fighters we talk about.

The most sensible post in the thread

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The most sensible post in the thread

It's not sensible like most his posts. Ortiz would get Dazn offer of 6.5 million minimum because he is replacing an already set price made by the promotion which is 6.5 million. Maybe finagle a bit more but it still beats 500 K of what he got for Wilder. Why would Ortiz need rematch Claus as well? The post he did doesn't make much sense.

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It's not sensible like most his posts. Ortiz would get Dazn offer of 6.5 million minimum because he is replacing an already set price made by the promotion which is 6.5 million. Maybe finagle a bit more but it still beats 500 K of what he got for Wilder. Why would Ortiz need rematch Claus as well? The post he did doesn't make much sense.

because hes a wilder fan which = ortiz fans

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BUT BUT isn't Ortiz like 63 years old and wasn't ever very good?

Yep, what's changed? . The joshua fans said it when wilder fought him and still say it now, its you wilder fans that started screaming for this as miller's replacement the minute you heard he got busted. You idiots still seem to think wilder and ortiz are 2 super beasts or something. Joshua will demolish ortiz easy. He is 63 years old and not very good.

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6 weeks is more than enough time

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Depends on the money. If they are lowballing him I don't think its a bad move to pass. What a lowball offer to a guy as old as Ortiz is is debatable doe cuz at this point the sun is setting on his career by the day so he needs to do something even if the offer isn't the sexiest. Or more than likely the rematch terms are garbage & limit him too much to make his career upside to be lower than if he just waited a lil longer or at least its a gamble that has some allure.

So nah no one is a certified nothing over not accepting a fight when we don't know the details. Contract sh^t ain't a fun discussion, but its a relevant fact for the fighters we talk about.

What would you deem as a lowball? Should we draw the line at his last purse in a title shot? 500k? So anything under 500k is a lowball? Hell if wilders worth 50 50 with Joshua then it makes sense to say ortiz should get similar.

So anything over 500k he should accept. That sound fair to you? Or has ortiz been on some basketball show recently so now he's worth over 500 million?

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He gets $5m+ in a Wilder 2 PPV, and he makes a nice payday to headline with Kownacki on FOX or Showtime (get the feeling that that's the fight being set up).

Nice try though

$5m+. Nice number pulled out of thin air. DAZN will offer ortiz 6 billion English pounds and and free holiday to Cuba and a yellow Nissan Duke if he signs up to face joshua next.

Sounds like a good deal, 6 billion is bigger money than 5 million

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Ortiz is probably mid cycle right now so theres no way he can take the fight without failing yet another drug test.

Add that to the fact Haymon has all these guy by the balls and scared of making their own decisions.

Kownacki is a nobody and he wouldn't take a chance to fight for millions and 3/4 of the titles in his hometown at MSG.
If that's not what you're in the sport for then just fking call it a day and retire you ****s.

Yeah I can’t get my head around that at all. A foreign champion coming to a fringe contenders back yard and giving him millions.

I’m certain Kownacki is on something. His management popped the heads straight above the pa****t and said ‘not us’.

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It's not sensible like most his posts. Ortiz would get Dazn offer of 6.5 million minimum because he is replacing an already set price made by the promotion which is 6.5 million. Maybe finagle a bit more but it still beats 500 K of what he got for Wilder. Why would Ortiz need rematch Claus as well? The post he did doesn't make much sense.

He's talking about Joshua and the rematch clause, not Ortiz needing one. He's talking about the options on the clause may not be favorable, kind of like when they tried to make the Wilder fight awhile back and the rematch would of given Wilder the same split had he won. Who in their right mind would take the same darn split after having beat the other fighter and now having the leverage? No promoter or manager worth their salt would let their guy do that. Maybe you just misread his post but what you said was wrong.

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Ortiz has 1 day left...

If he doesn't accept it I don't want his name and the word boogeyman ever being mentioned in the same sentence...unless you're talking about AJ being his boogeyman.