If Ortiz doesnt take the AJ fight hes a certified HOE

[Phenom]

He's ranked by the WBA and IBF

You're right 10th in IBF I don't know why I didn't see it before

[Vegemil]

Ortiz is on the CBP random VADA testing same as Dillian Whyte

u right.

[Phenom]

Ortiz is probably mid cycle right now so theres no way he can take the fight without failing yet another drug test.

Add that to the fact Haymon has all these guy by the balls and scared of making their own decisions.

Kownacki is a nobody and he wouldn't take a chance to fight for millions and 3/4 of the titles in his hometown at MSG.
If that's not what you're in the sport for then just fking call it a day and retire you ****s.

Ortiz is already on random VADA testing right now with CBP if he is mid cycle than he is already cheating VADA so that's not a reason

As far as Kownacki his manager said he is already signed up for a fight on upcoming PBC card but it's weird nothing is announced yet

[Scipio2009]

there is no way ortiz gets offered $5 million for one fight ever again. if AJ faces Hunter .. after that he has wilder, fury, wlad, whyte, chisora and usyk to choose from. ortiz will be last on that list and i doubt the same payday would be offered.

6-7 weeks is not that short of a camp. AJ would have the same time frame to adjust to a southpaw.

He gets $5m+ in a Wilder 2 PPV, and he makes a nice payday to headline with Kownacki on FOX or Showtime (get the feeling that that's the fight being set up).

Nice try though

[KP1]

Lol at people saying he could have been facing Ortiz from the beginning, Ortiz fought a month ago, pretty sure he was training for that and even if he didn’t have that fight he has fought nobodies since getting sparked by Wilder, Miller was rated higher ffs.

He took no damage in his last fight, it wasn’t that long ago, he had a full camp for that, he has plenty of time, the big scary boogeyman might not take it after all his mouthing off about being ducked.

Absolutely comical making excuses.

[Chrismart]

Lol at people saying he could have been facing Ortiz from the beginning, Ortiz fought a month ago, pretty sure he was training for that and even if he didn’t have that fight he has fought nobodies since getting sparked by Wilder, Miller was rated higher ffs.

He took no damage in his last fight, it wasn’t that long ago, he had a full camp for that, he has plenty of time, the big scary boogeyman might not take it after all his mouthing off about being ducked.

Absolutely comical making excuses.

Yep, but this is BoxingScene mate.

The same people who wanted to push the agenda that Joshua was ducking Wilder and Ortiz, made excuses when Wilder turned down a 2 fight offer, and are now scrambling for reasons why Ortiz should turn down any offers.

[REDEEMER]

there is no way ortiz gets offered $5 million for one fight ever again. if AJ faces Hunter .. after that he has wilder, fury, wlad, whyte, chisora and usyk to choose from. ortiz will be last on that list and i doubt the same payday would be offered.

6-7 weeks is not that short of a camp. AJ would have the same time frame to adjust to a southpaw.

I believe Ortiz had around 7 weeks to prepare for Wilder ? Either way you know the narrative will change when AJ wins and that'll be Ortiz is old from a year ago, it's why most smart fans know it's a unimportant fight here.

[Kezzer]

He gets $5m+ in a Wilder 2 PPV, and he makes a nice payday to headline with Kownacki on FOX or Showtime (get the feeling that that's the fight being set up).

Nice try though

Ortiz got $500k in wilder ppv last time, what makes you think he would be offered 5 mil next time?

[rickJen]

At least we now know he's not really serious about Joshua.
He's only interested in the Wilder rematch, which he sees as an easier fight.

Let's just forget about the clown right now.
He's irrelevant. No need to mention his name.

[Boksfan]

Ortiz has got time till tomorrow, if he ducks he's a hoe.