Comments Thread For: Manager: Adam Kownacki Not An Option To Fight Joshua On June 1

[kafkod]

would you take the fight if your out of shape and wont be ready?

if you don't think you have a chance at winning why take the fight

Ortiz says he would be ready and wants to accept the offer. It's his management who are blocking it.

[Bronx2245]

It's not about PBC, Matchroom or Top Rank.

It's about the World Heavyweight Championship for multi million dollars at Madison Square Garden.
Isn't that what fighters are in the game for?

Aren't you as a fan interested in seeing decent fights? The sport climbing out of its niche and actually mattering again? Or would you honestly rather see Joshua against some tin can and wonder why no one gives a **** about boxing any more?

Even you're into this whole promoter thing (God alone knows why), shouldn't you see this as an opportunity to lock up the division?

I am loathe to praise Don King but you can bet your life he'd have put Ortiz or Kownacki in that fight.

You give praise to Don King, and you romanticize the time when Don was King! That's when fighters has zero business sense! That's when Joe Louis, and Joe Frazier died broke! That's when Ali fought Holmes with advanced Parkinson's Disease! Ask Mike Tyson about Don King! You really want to go back to that? This is not perfect, but it's a much better time for the fighters than it's ever been!

[kafkod]

not all athletes stay in shape most only train when they have a fight come up

you only would have a five week training camp because this week over and last week you be scaling back other thing do for the fight

Whoever accepted the offer would have had 7 weeks to prepare for the fight. Ideally, they would have wanted a little longer, but heavyweights don't need to make weight, and this is a chance to fight for 3 world title belts, in their own backyard, for $6.5 million.

That's 13 times more than Ortiz was paid for Wilder! And he only had 8 weeks to prepare for that fight.

[Bronx2245]

I remember AJ needed more than 8 weeks to train for Wilder last year

No! That can't be true! You must be part of the conspiracy to smear the image of Anthony Joshua! I dare you to provide a link where Joshua said he needed at least 8 weeks to properly train for a title fight! I double dare you!

[Cobra Curry]

It seems pretty easy to say just sign the contract. It's like Spence telling Crawford to sign the contract or Mikey telling Loma to sign the contract without fans knowing what it's in the contract. Hearn hasn't offered anyone a contract. So if Loma and Crawford don't sign a contract to fight Spence and Mikey because there's language that states they would owe PBC options on 2 future fights, would you be saying Crawford and Loma are ducking or Arum is blocking the fight? If Hearn would come out and say it's a one fight deal with a rematch clause and no options, pretty sure they would accept it. But isn't Hearn the guy who keeps saying u gotta sign to DAZN to fight his guys?

Would Hearn prefer guys sign to DAZN? Absolutely. Would he allow that to prevent a fight under the present circumstances? Highly doubtful.

Besides, options shouldn't prevent a fighter taking an opportunity of this magnitude. Haymon had options on Joshua after the Martin fight for much less money than what's on offer now. At the end of the day you do what's necessary to become champion.

P.S.

Dressing up the DAZN offer to Wilder as some kind of multi fight slave contract is a bit disingenuous.
A bumper wage packet for Breazeale plus 2 Joshua fights as requested by Wilder himself is perfectly reasonable.

[kafkod]

What about Whyte, Chisora, Hunter, or Hrgovic? Are they "ruining" the sport? Why does PBC have to support a show on DAZN? Hearn didn't even call Al Haymon! Why didn't he call Bob Arum for Oscar Rivas? They did business for Hooker vs. Saucedo, and Loma vs. Crolla! Maybe Arum would help save the DAZN show? No it's just Al Haymon and the PBC, that has everyone so upset! I wonder why?

Hunter says he wants the fight, none of the others you named have been offered it.

Kownacki and Ortiz have been offered it and turned it down. Kownacki and Ortizis are Haymon/PBC fighters. Get it now?

And btw, in case you didn't know, if either of those 2 guys beat AJ they would be taking 3 world title belts back to PBC and Uncle Al.

[Cobra Curry]

You give praise to Don King, and you romanticize the time when Don was King! That's when fighters has zero business sense! That's when Joe Louis, and Joe Frazier died broke! That's when Ali fought Holmes with advanced Parkinson's Disease! Ask Mike Tyson about Don King! You really want to go back to that? This is not perfect, but it's a much better time for the fighters than it's ever been!

I have no love for Don King, we all know the horror stories and there are probably more besides.

Acknowledging his ability and willingness to make fights even with his mortal enemies does not equate to support for robbing and exploiting fighters.

Where's the business sense in rejecting $100 million to fight Dominic Breazeale on regular Showtime?

Or having Ortiz reject as good a retirement package as he'll ever see to fight Wilder for not even half as much?

Or denying Kownacki a title shot in his home town so he can toil away on undercards in hopes of landing a Wilder fight which again won't be half as lucrative?

Are we going to pretend that Haymon, who is no stranger to Don King by the way, is acting purely in his fighter's best interests here? That he isn't putting himself and his network commitments first?

[kafkod]

It seems pretty easy to say just sign the contract. It's like Spence telling Crawford to sign the contract or Mikey telling Loma to sign the contract without fans knowing what it's in the contract. Hearn hasn't offered anyone a contract. So if Loma and Crawford don't sign a contract to fight Spence and Mikey because there's language that states they would owe PBC options on 2 future fights, would you be saying Crawford and Loma are ducking or Arum is blocking the fight? If Hearn would come out and say it's a one fight deal with a rematch clause and no options, pretty sure they would accept it. But isn't Hearn the guy who keeps saying u gotta sign to DAZN to fight his guys?

No. Hearn has never said that.

He is offering a fight with AJ, with a rematch clause, which woud be streamed on DAZN in they US. That's all.

[kafkod]

Wait, isn't it comical that Wilder and Ortiz get offered fights but they must sign multi fight deals in order to get the fight. Both AJ and Fury have been offered a fight with Wilder with no future commitments to PBC or Showtime.

Where the fck do you people get all this bollocks from?

[john l]

What did I say?Alot of people again drinking that Hearn Kool-Aid with him saying RIGHT AWAY that AJ wanted to fight Ortiz but he said he was not ready.Funny thing was Ortiz and his people were not saying that.Kownacki has now bowed out for some ****** reason he will be lucky not to get upset before he see's half of that money.Im sure it was more like 2.5 or so then 4.75 but still he should have jumped at it.