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  • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
    Whyte, Chisora, Povetkin, Hunter, and Hrgovic haven't stepped in yet either. What's their excuse? Oh, and they are not PBC fighters! Neither is Rivas, Pulev, or Fury! What's their excuse! This (June 1st) is a MatchRoom problem! Don't deflect the blame!
    This notion you have been repeating consistently, what exactly is you point?
    You want the event to fail so you can brag AL runs the show in the state.

    Funny enough, there must be an opponent even if all the interested HW's making noise of wanting a title shot all of a sudden are not interested, june1 event will hold even if it's a CW.
    So rejoice not for you have won nothing.
    AJ is gonna KO them out anyway, who do ever step in, it makes no difference.

    It's just a missed opportunity for them... Not wilder nor fury can commander 6mil to any of these cry baby HW claiming to be boogeyman.

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    • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      That's my point! How is PBC responsible for this mess? Why haven't the guys in MatchRoom been offered the fight? Why hasn't Hunter been offered the fight? It's just a way to say, "Well we went with fighter X, b/c fighters Y and Z wouldn't take the fight!" It's a lame tactic! There's only 5 weeks to train and recover for Joshua! Hunter is in training, Hrgovic has no fight scheduled, neither does Whyte, or Chisora. Fix the problem with your own stable! Don't deflect the blame for this mess to Al Haymon! And in the future, if you need a PBC fighter, it's probably best to talk to Al Haymon!
      Hearn literally can't win with you people. You are constantly crying and complaining about him keeping everything "in house" like Arum, then when he offers a big fight to a non Matchroom fighter it's, "mwuuh ... keep to your own stable Eddie, leave them PBC guys alone, they belong to Al Haymon. not you."

      That kind of ****** shit is exactly why boxing fell off the radar with mainstream US sports fans!

      Is it going to cost you anything if a PBC guy fights AJ on DAZN? Don't you want to see the top HWs in the ring fighting each other, or what?

      And why are you all talking about only 5 weeks to prepare? It was nearer to 7 weeks when the offers first went out.

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      • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
        Lolx.... .this sounds funny as fcck
        What's even funnier is all these Haymon fanboys co-signing it!

        You couldn't make this shit up!

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        • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
          It's always better to show, vice tell!

          January 9, 2019:

          A booming, divided boxing business in 2019

          Hearn isn't averse to pointing fingers at himself.

          "Everyone's trying to keep up; we're overpaying," he said. "ESPN's overpaying fighters, Haymon's overpaying fighters and some of the fighters just aren't worth what the numbers say they are. So it's a war of attrition right now. We saw this a few years ago with the PBC. I remember because I was on the other end of it. We felt the shockwaves in the U.K., with the PBC coming in and offering large amounts of money to fighters, world-class fighters, of which there were many, and we had to step up our game"

          That was in 2015. In 2018, explained Hearn, "it's kind of like the reverse now, where DAZN is coming in and spending a lot of money and PBC has had to up their game and go back to paying at the levels [they were at] before..."

          "There is more money in the sport than ever, more broadcasters in the sport than ever, more shows than ever, more big shows than ever," Hearn pointed out. He then added, "But I do worry a little bit, particularly with the U.S. side of the sport, because there seems to be a lot of people acting with their balls rather than their brains. Listen, maybe we're one of them..."

          "I do like to think that we have a reputation for making more fights with other promoters than anybody else," he continued. "But of course, everybody's strategy is the same: Deliver the biggest names and the biggest fights to your platform, your broadcaster. It's not just that one's nasty or vindictive, that's just the name of the game. If I've got Oleksandr Usyk or Anthony Joshua and I'm putting him on ESPN, well, what's the point in DAZN being with us and giving us a budget if we can't deliver our big names to their platform..."

          Ultimately, there is a stark reality to the current marketplace. Promoters aren't just worried about protecting their boxers, but also protecting their broadcast partners.

          "This is just the business, it will mean that certain fights are difficult to make," explained Hearn, who is under pressure himself to make a Joshua-Wilder fight sooner rather than later.

          "If Golovkin comes to DAZN, I'm sure we'll get Canelo against Golovkin III," Hearn continued. "If he doesn't, then we'll probably never see that fight. So that would be a shame. Will you ever see Lomachenko against Mikey Garcia? I very much doubt it. It's a fight I'd love to see. Will you see Errol Spence against Terence Crawford? I very much doubt it. That's another fight I'd love to see."

          That sound you hear? It's the collective groaning of boxing fans across the world.

          "It's not that anyone's really trying to scuff up the sport or be difficult, it's just their jobs," Hearn went on to say. "Haymon's got to deliver for Showtime and Fox, I've got to deliver for DAZN, Bob's got to deliver for ESPN.

          "So they won't move their talent, nor will we
          ."

          http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-business-2019

          As we say in the U.S., "Don't hate the player, hate the game!"
          And now Hearn is offering 2 PBC fighters a shot at AJ's 3 world title belts .. and you're complaining about it!

          How does that make sense?

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          • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            What's even funnier is all these Haymon fanboys co-signing it!

            You couldn't make this shit up!
            smiles........ I can't stop laughing, you really cracked my ribs.

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            • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
              smiles........ I can't stop laughing, you really cracked my ribs.

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              • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                It's always better to show, vice tell!

                January 9, 2019:

                A booming, divided boxing business in 2019

                Hearn isn't averse to pointing fingers at himself.

                "Everyone's trying to keep up; we're overpaying," he said. "ESPN's overpaying fighters, Haymon's overpaying fighters and some of the fighters just aren't worth what the numbers say they are. So it's a war of attrition right now. We saw this a few years ago with the PBC. I remember because I was on the other end of it. We felt the shockwaves in the U.K., with the PBC coming in and offering large amounts of money to fighters, world-class fighters, of which there were many, and we had to step up our game"

                That was in 2015. In 2018, explained Hearn, "it's kind of like the reverse now, where DAZN is coming in and spending a lot of money and PBC has had to up their game and go back to paying at the levels [they were at] before..."

                "There is more money in the sport than ever, more broadcasters in the sport than ever, more shows than ever, more big shows than ever," Hearn pointed out. He then added, "But I do worry a little bit, particularly with the U.S. side of the sport, because there seems to be a lot of people acting with their balls rather than their brains. Listen, maybe we're one of them..."

                "I do like to think that we have a reputation for making more fights with other promoters than anybody else," he continued. "But of course, everybody's strategy is the same: Deliver the biggest names and the biggest fights to your platform, your broadcaster. It's not just that one's nasty or vindictive, that's just the name of the game. If I've got Oleksandr Usyk or Anthony Joshua and I'm putting him on ESPN, well, what's the point in DAZN being with us and giving us a budget if we can't deliver our big names to their platform..."

                Ultimately, there is a stark reality to the current marketplace. Promoters aren't just worried about protecting their boxers, but also protecting their broadcast partners.

                "This is just the business, it will mean that certain fights are difficult to make," explained Hearn, who is under pressure himself to make a Joshua-Wilder fight sooner rather than later.

                "If Golovkin comes to DAZN, I'm sure we'll get Canelo against Golovkin III," Hearn continued. "If he doesn't, then we'll probably never see that fight. So that would be a shame. Will you ever see Lomachenko against Mikey Garcia? I very much doubt it. It's a fight I'd love to see. Will you see Errol Spence against Terence Crawford? I very much doubt it. That's another fight I'd love to see."

                That sound you hear? It's the collective groaning of boxing fans across the world.

                "It's not that anyone's really trying to scuff up the sport or be difficult, it's just their jobs," Hearn went on to say. "Haymon's got to deliver for Showtime and Fox, I've got to deliver for DAZN, Bob's got to deliver for ESPN.

                "So they won't move their talent, nor will we
                ."

                http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-business-2019

                As we say in the U.S., "Don't hate the player, hate the game!"
                That's all well and good but in reality, Hearn has always sent his fighters to other platforms for the right opportunity or, as we see with Amir Khan, at the fighter's insistence.

                There is also the opportunity for PBC to own all the belts at heavyweight, which is surely worth taking a risk for.

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                • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  And now Hearn is offering 2 PBC fighters a shot at AJ's 3 world title belts .. and you're complaining about it!

                  How does that make sense?
                  It doesn't

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                  • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
                    This notion you have been repeating consistently, what exactly is you point?
                    You want the event to fail so you can brag AL runs the show in the state.

                    Funny enough, there must be an opponent even if all the interested HW's making noise of wanting a title shot all of a sudden are not interested, june1 event will hold even if it's a CW.
                    So rejoice not for you have won nothing.
                    AJ is gonna KO them out anyway, who do ever step in, it makes no difference.

                    It's just a missed opportunity for them... Not wilder nor fury can commander 6mil to any of these cry baby HW claiming to be boogeyman.
                    My point is STOP CRYING ABOUT PBC! One, PBC has nothing to do with the June 1st show, and Two, MatchRoom has other HWs to step in!

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                    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Hearn literally can't win with you people. You are constantly crying and complaining about him keeping everything "in house" like Arum, then when he offers a big fight to a non Matchroom fighter it's, "mwuuh ... keep to your own stable Eddie, leave them PBC guys alone, they belong to Al Haymon. not you."

                      That kind of ****** shit is exactly why boxing fell off the radar with mainstream US sports fans!

                      Is it going to cost you anything if a PBC guy fights AJ on DAZN? Don't you want to see the top HWs in the ring fighting each other, or what?

                      And why are you all talking about only 5 weeks to prepare? It was nearer to 7 weeks when the offers first went out.
                      How is that possible? How could Hearn have been sending out offers that early? there's six weeks until the fight, and no one trains like that on the last week! He didn't find out until this week!

                      I do want the best to fight the best! Just make a deal! That means Hearn, Arum, and Haymon have to talk! Everyone is playing this "I don't know who to call," "I don't know if Al Haymon exists?" Al Haymon is now getting blamed for a failed MatchRoom show! If Joshua wants Ortiz, call Haymon, and do it properly! Don't get mad when Ortiz or Kownacki won't take a fight as a late replacement! Offer your own a late replacement! Offer Whyte, Hunter, or Hrgovic a late replacement!

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