Comments Thread For: Arum: Joshua Should Sign With Top Rank, Nobody Has DAZN!

[Lemonhead_Jeff]

We know that Wilder's preferred network is willing to collaborate with
rival networks in order to get the biggest fights made. We know this
because they have done it in the past. We don't know if ESPN and
DAZN would be willing to compromise or collaborate, and they have
not given fans any reason to be optimistic about the odds of it ever
happening. Disney is not known for their benevolence or flexibility.
I hate to tell you this, but we are not going to see any of these big
fights materialize until DAZN folds. I subscribe to both ESPN+ & DAZN,
and frankly, I'd rather see ESPN fail. I find their boxing presentation
dreary & depressing, and they must be out of their mind thinking that
their upcoming PPV is worth the asking price. It's laughable & insulting.

[James Hunt]

You comparing Canelo, who has sold millions of PPV's in the US, to Joshua who hasn't sold one single PPV in the U.S.

You talking nonsense and exposing yourself for the idiot most think you are.

Yes! And exactly the same people that Canelo brings to DAZN will also watch AJ fights.

[killakali]

Fair play to him for that. He would have been foolish to not at the very least ask for the 12.5M that ESPN offered him for this fight. Anything less than that and he's just playing himself. If his team wants to sell him on the fact that the Joshua fight on PPV could earn him more than 40M? Okay no problem, but they better pay him at least what ESPN offered him. And Arum said even before Wilder officially announced he was fighting on SHO that Wilder wasn't going to take the DAZN deal and his team matched the offer they sent to him for the Breazeale fight.

Last I heard, he hasn't even inked any multi-year or multi-fight deal with SHO. And Finkel said even if they did, they would have outs in their contract that allowed them to make certain fights.

Where DAZN trumps all this is guaranteeing all 3 fights. Wilder loses vs Breazeale or the fight after and he looks really foolish

[BennyBlanco]

Aj doesn’t need the US he will make truck loads of cash defending in front of huge crowds in the UK and an occasional US fight.Hes been making way larger purses and Wilder who’s been champ longer was making something like a million a fight.Aj doesn’t need the U S or wilder.Most people think Fury beat him and I will bet you Fury and AJ will hook up in a huge fight in the UK before Wilder fights either one of them.People praised Fury for taking the wilder fight after his long layoff and now they want to bash him because he’s making financial decisions that benefit him.He flat out beat Wilder on points.

Joshua isn't making "truck loads of cash."

FLOYD MAYWEATHER made "truck loads of cash." And he didn't do it on an app and he didn't do it by letting a promoter use him to build a separate business.

Everything Floyd did benefited Floyd and Floyd's business. Joshua would be wise to follow Floyd's lead.

[BennyBlanco]

Which is why they don't give out big purses for regular Showtime fights.

Wrong. Big fights on Showtime drive subscriptions. Espinosa has said that for big Showtime fights they get big signups. That's the motivation for putting big fights on Showtime.

[BennyBlanco]

What bonuses could they possibly put in contract subscribers? That won’t work with offering free 30 day subscription until they stop doing that no way they can tie subscription spikes into bonuses so really nothing he can do to parlay a win in first Joshua fight into significant extra money for the second fight, Joshua on other hand still gets his percentage from sky ppv to make a lot of money on backend on top of guarantee that dazn would give him I would of took deal if was me cause it looks good from outside looking in

****** point. You don't think the networks know exactly how many free trials convert to paying subscriptions. Of course they do. Easy to track.

[BennyBlanco]

Nobody had Netflix at one point of time. DAZN is still trying to build their brand and business. This will take anywhere from 3-10 years depending on what deals they can make.

In 10 years AJ will be out of the sport.

He is spending his prime years building someone else's business from scratch.

Mayweather didn't build anything for anyone other than himself. Every bit of his value went to building his own business. AJ should do the same and stop building Matchroom and DAZN for someone else. Plantation mentality.

[Oldskoolg]

Wrong. Big fights on Showtime drive subscriptions. Espinosa has said that for big Showtime fights they get big signups. That's the motivation for putting big fights on Showtime.

I don’t think he is even from the USA so I would ignore his statements about what’s big in the USA

[SchoolTheseCats]

You have any link to that? The first time I hear. Tnx.

Fat dan said in his podcast that showtime matched 12.5mil offer espn made to get Breazeale fight, Espinoza said he had to give wilder a significant raise to get Breazeale fight on showtime telling fat dan and pugimire it’s in the 14-15 mil range with bombsquadz promotion doing they first co promotion with showtime which is true if go look at promotional banners for fight has his company on it, won’t know his exact guarantee until file with commission since Espinoza won’t say exactly what it is just that it’s in 14-15mil range

[SchoolTheseCats]

****** point. You don't think the networks know exactly how many free trials convert to paying subscriptions. Of course they do. Easy to track.

Free subscription that dazn offering go convert to paying subscriptions enough to give millions more on top of his guarantee with the content they offering so far? That’s point number one, secondly people signing up for 30 day subscription and canceling same day or before 30days up won’t bring in any revenue regardless as it’s a free subscription you clearly missed the point from get go