Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: DAZN Never Told Us What Joshua Was Getting

[Scipio2009]

Agreed, I'd much prefer there was a bidding war for every card, but I guess that's be a risk too far for most networks.

If either get beaten badly, there's a risk of retirement just like Klitchko, the financial risk for Wilder is bigger as he's not earned at the same level. Joshua in interviews seems to say he's invested a lot of his money in different ventures, which sounds sensible. But I guess even Wilder could potentially retire with enough in the bank as long as he doesn't have "friends" like Mike Tyson did when the cash was there.

Personally I can't stand all this politics and networks BS, it was so much better on prime time TV back in the day. I mean imagine the advertising revenue you could get on the big fights nowadays, they could sell huge spots just like they do during the superbowl. Never gonna happen, but a man can dream...

Haymon likely has a pretty good grasp of the potential advertising revenue now, tbh; counting the number of genuine commercials during Phase 1 of the PBC effort (ie ignoring the Corona commercials or commercials plugging other content for the channel that the fight was aired on) let it show pretty early that the effort was beyond viable.

Only issue with Super Bowl notion is that a fight could end on one shot; vividly remember my family ordering Tyson-Etienne, everyone coming over, all the food that was cooked up, all to get what felt like maybe 10 minutes of Mike Tyson (walkout, anthem/intros, fight, interview, post fight).

Now imagine if that'd been on CBS; all the commercials in the stash to only maybe air 2.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder has never sold out anything in his entire career. Even against Fury he couldn't sell out.

... you can still literally buy a row of 20 seats in 60% or so of the lower bowl, lol.

The full ticket map isn't available, but if Madison Square Garden is staged for the full 21000 seats, there may currently be 7000 tickets sold, including the ones bought explicitly to resell.

Wilder sold 14500 tickets for the Fury fight, with 17000 people in the building on fight night.

What happened to Joshua being this global megastar?

[pillowfists98]

... you can still literally buy a row of 20 seats in 60% or so of the lower bowl, lol.

The full ticket map isn't available, but if Madison Square Garden is staged for the full 21000 seats, there may currently be 7000 tickets sold, including the ones bought explicitly to resell.

Wilder sold 14500 tickets for the Fury fight, with 17000 people in the building on fight night.

What happened to Joshua being this global megastar?

Wait until June 1st before you make a judgement about ticket sales.

[Pinoy4ever]

Why didn't they ask then..

[Scipio2009]

Wait until June 1st before you make a judgement about ticket sales.

We'll see.

Wilder-Breazeale tickets go on sale soon, Lou DiBella is the most connected promoter in the Northeast and one of the top promoters in the game, Showtime/FOX/FS1 are going to push the heck out of the fight for the next two months, and outside of YouTube if we're honest, DAZN/Joshua really don't have any real avenue to market the fight (Don't think that that ESPN freeze out was on accident, lol).

Not looking so great

[pillowfists98]

We'll see.

Wilder-Breazeale tickets go on sale soon, Lou DiBella is the most connected promoter in the Northeast and one of the top promoters in the game, Showtime/FOX/FS1 are going to push the heck out of the fight for the next two months, and outside of YouTube if we're honest, DAZN/Joshua really don't have any real avenue to market the fight (Don't think that that ESPN freeze out was on accident, lol).

Not looking so great

I don't see Wilder outselling Joshua at the gate. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if Joshua-Miller was a sell out.

[sayf]

Haymon likely has a pretty good grasp of the potential advertising revenue now, tbh; counting the number of genuine commercials during Phase 1 of the PBC effort (ie ignoring the Corona commercials or commercials plugging other content for the channel that the fight was aired on) let it show pretty early that the effort was beyond viable.

Only issue with Super Bowl notion is that a fight could end on one shot; vividly remember my family ordering Tyson-Etienne, everyone coming over, all the food that was cooked up, all to get what felt like maybe 10 minutes of Mike Tyson (walkout, anthem/intros, fight, interview, post fight).

Now imagine if that'd been on CBS; all the commercials in the stash to only maybe air 2.

Haha, yeah I guess that's the kicker in boxing, it can literally end at any time. Superbowl timings are pretty much fixed baring any disaster.

It's a shame, grew up watching so much boxing on normal TV it made me love the sport. In the UK, there's not really any boxing on terrestrial TV anymore, so many people who could have grown up loving the sport will probably never come across it. Films like Creed can help a little, as the Rocky films did for many of us in the 80s and 90s, but it doesn't bode well for the future of the sport when they generation dies out.

[QballLobo]

I don't know where you're from but this is big-time heavyweight boxing, between two English-speaking and big-punching heavyweights, for a fight likely for T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, with basically no PPV competition at this point (Alvarez cashed out the likely rest of his run for the $365m on DAZN, Conor McGregor is basically almost done with fighting with the Floyd payday setting up his next two generations, and PBC isn't likely to let Errol Spence Jr step on Wilder's shine and vice versa).

You really have no idea how big an event this could be? lol

This isn’t the 80’s and 90’s. The last heavyweight to put up those numbers was Tyson and that was decades ago.
Most sports fans have never heard of Joshua or Wilder. They are not mega draws and won’t be anytime soon.
If they fought on a traditional PPV platform they would struggle to hit 500k buys.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Just admit Wilder would rather duck a fight he won’t win than make the most money. Down the line Wilder will have to admit this to himself.

[QballLobo]

I don't know where you're from but this is big-time heavyweight boxing, between two English-speaking and big-punching heavyweights, for a fight likely for T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, with basically no PPV competition at this point (Alvarez cashed out the likely rest of his run for the $365m on DAZN, Conor McGregor is basically almost done with fighting with the Floyd payday setting up his next two generations, and PBC isn't likely to let Errol Spence Jr step on Wilder's shine and vice versa).

You really have no idea how big an event this could be? lol

This isn’t the 80’s and 90’s. The last heavyweight to put up those numbers was Tyson and that was decades ago.
Most sports fans have never heard of Joshua or Wilder. They are not mega draws and won’t be anytime soon.
If they fought on a traditional PPV platform they would struggle to hit 500k buys.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Just admit Wilder would rather duck a fight he won’t win than make the most money. Down the line Wilder will have to admit this to himself.

[Bullrider]

So Finkel is suggesting whatever Joshua gets, Wilder should get the same amount. Very greedy.