Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: DAZN Never Told Us What Joshua Was Getting

[Calibaloc]

What did he say that wasn't an excuse?

I swear, Wilder could come right out and say, "I'm never going to fight AJ cuz I'm scared of getting knocked out" and ****heads like him still wouldn't accept it, even from Wilder's own mouth.

Answering a question with a question is basically the same as saying "You got me, I dont know how the f@ck to respond or answer that". So go run along now. I win.

[Curt Henning]

DAZN only deal in flat fees. There are no PPV sales and therefore no upsides with a subscription based platform.

And you are not telling the full story ... if Wilder had accpted DAZN's offer he would also have them locked into a $40million flat fee for a rematch, even if he lost the first fight.

no ppv is leaving money on the table....its ****** for a fight that can be this big....

and you have to wonder if there is a relation to them not getting wilder and raising subscriptions

DAZN not having 100 percent of the fight makes putting AJ in a 50/50 fight him very risky....if AJ loses they lose a big invesment.....thats why they tried....they wanted to avert risk

wilder didnt go for it....and hes probably right too....wilder is making a bet....this fight can do better with a ppv model...the

if spence can reel in 350k and wilder/fury can reel in 300k than AJ/wilder can certainly hit 2 million if done right just in the US alone....DAZN cant touch that number of american viewerships on their best day

[pillowfists98]

no ppv is leaving money on the table....its ****** for a fight that can be this big....

and you have to wonder if there is a relation to them not getting wilder and raising subscriptions

DAZN not having 100 percent of the fight makes putting AJ in a 50/50 fight him very risky....if AJ loses they lose a big invesment.....thats why they tried....they wanted to avert risk

wilder didnt go for it....and hes probably right too....wilder is making a bet....this fight can do better with a ppv model...the

if spence can reel in 350k and wilder/fury can reel in 300k than AJ/wilder can certainly hit 2 million if done right just in the US alone....DAZN cant touch that number of american viewerships on their best day

If Wilder-Fury does 300K and AJ-Wilder does 2 million according to you then why does Wilder deserve 50-50? Seems like you're contradicting yourself again.

[Curt Henning]

If Wilder-Fury does 300K and AJ-Wilder does 2 million according to you then why does Wilder deserve 50-50? Seems like you're contradicting yourself again.

because hes the unbeaten american HW champ....when you comebine him with AJ it does big in america! AJ is the superstar but wilder is the american star! its not a contradiction...you just arent smart enough to understand basic logic

canelo vs chavez or liam smith isnt the same as canelo vs ggg...and ggg vs david lemieux isnt the same as ggg vs canelo

when you combine aj/wilder its special and different than either of those guys fighting someone else......its not a contradiction...its the perfect combination!!!

try putting AJ against anyone else on US ppv...its not doing 2 mil either....but with wilder it can

[Calibaloc]

More ridiculous excuses from the most most ****** fan base in the sport. Wilder wasn't being offered anything by Eddie Hearn, the offer came from DAZN. And have you never heard of business contracts? You don't need to like or even trust someone if you have their signature on a legally binding contract.

That's why business contracts exist!

Hey fool. If he was'nt being offered anything by Eddie Hearn personally(who is AJ's promoter), why the f@ck would he feel secure that he would end up getting to fight AJ if he signed the 3 fight deal? did you see the contract yourself?

as stated earlier, what if Wilder wins in a barn burner that everyone watched, and the rematch is advertised perfectly, All he has to look forward to is the same old $40 million he received when he only had 1 belt while Joshua(who would be the loser in this case) makes way more because he may be getting a percentage? Sounds shady especially when they dont want to say how much AJ will be getting.

[Calibaloc]

Nothing's been disclosed so I can only offer speculation, but Hearn said that AJ would be getting something in line with the percentages already offered. He offered Wilder 60/40 and with Wilder being offered $40m per fight, it's not unlikely AJ will be on $60m and so, coupled with the 30m he's reportedly been offered for the Miller fight we have a total pot of $250, for building towards the two unification bouts, with Wilder taking 100m and for Joshua $150m. Or $120m vs $80m for the two unification bouts if you prefer to take the warmup fights out of the equation.

Is this the 50/50 that Team Wilder now apparently insist on? No. Is it fair considering the disparity between the two fighters in terms of commercial pulling power, belts etc. No, it's likely unfair to AJ. He'd be getting around twice his previous purse whilst Wilder, getting nearer 4 times his. But if he, or rather his advisors, were desperately looking for reasons not to take the deal, they could seize on this and maybe some would buy it.

If what you are saying was true, I dont think that they would have a problem disclosing how much AJ would be getting. $120m vs $80m is not bad at all. I believe there was a problem because AJ was most likely going to get a percentage while WIlder had the flat fee. The problem with that is while AJ's would money increase in the two fights, even in a possible defeat to Wilder, Wilder's money would stay the same in the rematch because he already agreed to a flat fee while AJ got a percentage. But like you said all speculation.

[kafkod]

no ppv is leaving money on the table....its ****** for a fight that can be this big....

and you have to wonder if there is a relation to them not getting wilder and raising subscriptions

DAZN not having 100 percent of the fight makes putting AJ in a 50/50 fight him very risky....if AJ loses they lose a big invesment.....thats why they tried....they wanted to avert risk

wilder didnt go for it....and hes probably right too....wilder is making a bet....this fight can do better with a ppv model...the

if spence can reel in 350k and wilder/fury can reel in 300k than AJ/wilder can certainly hit 2 million if done right just in the US alone....DAZN cant touch that number of american viewerships on their best day

I would say that a fight between AJ and Wilder is a million miles away from being a 2million PPV seller.

And even if it was that big, Wilder was guaranteed around $10million more than Canelo earned from 2million+ PPV sales as the A side in 2 fights against GGG.

[Scipio2009]

Two of those fights would be against AJ!

And Wilder himself asked Hearn for a 3 fight contract last year .. one fight with Dillian Whyte then AJ with a rematch clause.

Owning the show against Whyte, 40% on the first Joshua fight, and 50% on the Joshua rematch.

Context is a beautiful thing, lol

[Holler]

If what you are saying was true, I dont think that they would have a problem disclosing how much AJ would be getting. $120m vs $80m is not bad at all. I believe there was a problem because AJ was most likely going to get a percentage while WIlder had the flat fee. The problem with that is while AJ's would money increase in the two fights, even in a possible defeat to Wilder, Wilder's money would stay the same in the rematch because he already agreed to a flat fee while AJ got a percentage. But like you said all speculation.

A percentage of what? We're not talking a PPV where there's an unknown upside with no theoretical limit. DAZN are providing the pot which is fixed.

Could AJ have received additional monies related to UK PPV or DAZN sign ups? Who knows? The point really is that Wilder's guaranteed fee is so much bigger than anything he's earned before or would earn again that the public fretting over how much AJ is getting starts to seem a little forced.

The fact is that AJ can earn well with or without this fight. Sure he earns more from this than any other, but there's a big difference between what he and Wilder earns in the next year if this fight isn't made so whichever way AJ out earns him, its' just if they fight that discrepancy won't be so large.

[kafkod]

Owning the show against Whyte, 40% on the first Joshua fight, and 50% on the Joshua rematch.

Context is a beautiful thing, lol

I've no idea what that is supposed to mean.