Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager: DAZN Never Told Us What Joshua Was Getting

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  • KillaCamNZ
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    #171
    Originally posted by Phenom
    It's a flat offer not a split that's the thing with DAZN no upside
    No point just talking about just "upside" when the downside guarantee is massive.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #172
      Originally posted by KillaCamNZ
      No point just talking about just "upside" when the downside guarantee is massive.
      if theres a downsize then DAZN just capped the downside....if you think anyone else is making "pure projection" then DAZN just gave you their lowball projection just on wilders side alone(because they wouldnt tell anyone what AJ's piece was worth)

      DAZN is not using hope as a tactic either! they just capped the donwside of the fight for all of us...theyd carry as much risk as anyone too

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      • MachoPower
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        #173
        Greed is the root of evil..you better keep winning Wilder...

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        • peplz
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          #174
          Originally posted by NORMNEALON
          I don’t get some of the deflecting done by wilder and Joshua’s sides on all this ....first off Shelly , this isn’t an offer from Hearn this is a network offer . Dazn is trying to sign wilder for more that just the Joshua fight , obviously that is their goal plain and simple but most network contracts are for more than 1 fight . And eddies deflecting is just crazy aswell too many examples to even get into , if Hearn could have left his mouth shut team Joshua would be looking good right now as far as who’s to blame but his big mouth has constantly made them look foolish ( not that Deontays hasn’t done the same as per the other side ). This is getting old real quick. Wilder should have taken the crazy deal and if Joshua is a network free agent why hasn’t show put up some money to try and get them there ?? Why doesn’t Joshua say he wants the fight to Espinoza and get the ball rolling. I see a bunch of posturing by two promoters instead of two fighters demanding the fight . Make it happen or shut up . This is getting old .
          Sounds like you’re desperately looking for a way to blame someone other than Deontay Wilder for his own pettiness and cowardice

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          • sayf
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            #175
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            .... Showtime is doing it right now, largely on the strength of a reputation for doing good business that makes sense.

            It's a venture with risks, but that's the sport.

            That's why they spent the 2 and a half years building Joshua at matinee in the US, spend all that time building Wilder, push both fighters, and let the result be the result.

            Wilder gets beat in a good fight, he still stands as the American heavyweight hope now on the road back; Joshua gets beat in a good fight, and he's still the fighting pride of Britain with the grit/mentality to give it another go and achieve the dream.

            The sport would be better that way.
            Agreed, I'd much prefer there was a bidding war for every card, but I guess that's be a risk too far for most networks.

            If either get beaten badly, there's a risk of retirement just like Klitchko, the financial risk for Wilder is bigger as he's not earned at the same level. Joshua in interviews seems to say he's invested a lot of his money in different ventures, which sounds sensible. But I guess even Wilder could potentially retire with enough in the bank as long as he doesn't have "friends" like Mike Tyson did when the cash was there.

            Personally I can't stand all this politics and networks BS, it was so much better on prime time TV back in the day. I mean imagine the advertising revenue you could get on the big fights nowadays, they could sell huge spots just like they do during the superbowl. Never gonna happen, but a man can dream...

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            • daggum
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              #176
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              no ppv is leaving money on the table....its ****** for a fight that can be this big....

              and you have to wonder if there is a relation to them not getting wilder and raising subscriptions

              DAZN not having 100 percent of the fight makes putting AJ in a 50/50 fight him very risky....if AJ loses they lose a big invesment.....thats why they tried....they wanted to avert risk

              wilder didnt go for it....and hes probably right too....wilder is making a bet....this fight can do better with a ppv model...the

              if spence can reel in 350k and wilder/fury can reel in 300k than AJ/wilder can certainly hit 2 million if done right just in the US alone....DAZN cant touch that number of american viewerships on their best day

              hes making that bet based on doing 300k buys? if he was such a huge ppv star why is his next fight on normal showtime? joshuas never been on ppv either and he never will becaue he fighsts on dazn. that model is not relevant because its not a realistic option. how do 2 non ppv stars suddenly jump to doing 2 million buys? i've never seen that.


              if wilder fury can do 300k wilder joshua can do 2 million? whats that based on? alternative reality model?

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              • Laligalaliga
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                #177
                I didn't know finkel is this shook.. He keeps lining excuses for his bad advice.
                What's his business if AJ is fighting for free?

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Phenom
                  AJ is worthless to DAZN USA without Wilder
                  Lolx....... Wilder is not even worth a ****te in the whole of America. What's your next punch line?

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                  • Phenom
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    Lolx....... Wilder is not even worth a ****te in the whole of America. What's your next punch line?
                    How is the MSG selling?

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                    • pillowfists98
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Phenom
                      Wilder has never sold out anything in his entire career. Even against Fury he couldn't sell out.

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