Are there any posters on here willing to admit they had Wilder wrong?

[Mirror Universe]

they are the side not doing anything at all.

There's nothing to do. Neither fighter is available. If they both win their next fights, talks will resume as always. The fight is unlikely to happen as long as Hearn insists that both fights take place on DAZN. If he ever agrees to one fight on each platform, then the fight will probably happen.

[that g]

Not discounting anything. We agree Wilder doesn't deserve 50/50. He is closing the gap though. The offer has gone from 12.5 to 40. Clearly he's doing something right.

he's ducking the fight now to try to increase his value so he can get a bigger payday from AJ in the future, while trying to force the boxing match onto showtime ppv instead of dazn.

that's a dumb business move. it doesn't benefit wilder, doesn't benefit you, the fan who has to pay 80 bucks more for this nonsense, and definitely doesn't benefit AJ. so at the end of the day, it only benefits Haymon, finkel, and showtime. that's it. that's the very definition of graft.

[Mirror Universe]

he's ducking the fight now to try to increase his value so he can get a bigger payday from AJ in the future, while trying to force the boxing match onto showtime ppv instead of dazn.

Both fighters would make more money if the fight was on Showtime PPV instead of DAZN.

So why should it be on DAZN?

[that g]

It would serve Wilder proper if he can cut all of these middleman out of his circle. Why on earth does he needs three mangers? He has too many people in his ear. I believe he should fire both Showtime, Shelly Finkel, Jay Deas, Al Haymon and Mark Breland.

None of those guys are doing anything to advance or further his career. He is the WBC's Heavyweight champion of the world and an American heavyweight champion at that.

He is the most Goddamn famous boxer in the world and is not being justly or fairly compensated for it. They are all taking unfair advantage of him because of his loyalty.

He should be bringing home more than $1.5mil paydays. The man can fight but the problem is he doesn't have a promoter.

If he was properly promoted and sold to the public as he should, then he wouldn't have any trouble bringing home the $25-$50 mil paydays that he so richly deserves. I hate to see him exploited the way he is.

Tyson, Ali and Holmes had Don King. Deontay Wilder has nobody giving him that kind of push which is sad. He needs a promoter who can create enough stir, awareness and buzz in order to promote his fights to the public.

i can respect any poster who openly supports wilder, but is also willing to be honest enough to admit that wilder's career has been, and is being mismanaged and manipulated. we're all fans here, and we like who we like.

[that g]

Both fighters would make more money if the fight was on Showtime PPV instead of DAZN.

So why should it be on DAZN?

and.. that's a lie, WBC WBA IBFraud. and you know it.
Dazn is willing to come in and match whatever any ppv will generate for the two fighters.

[champion4ever]

i can respect any poster who openly supports wilder, but is also willing to be honest enough to admit that wilder's career has been, and is being mismanaged and manipulated. we're all fans here, and we like who we like.

You are quite very welcome Bro but it is the truth. As much as I love Deontay Wilder, I just don't like the way his team is treating him. They are destroying his career. In any case, thanks for the very kind words. I greatly appreciate them.

[Mirror Universe]

Dazn is willing to come in and match whatever any ppv will generate for the two fighters.

Showtime PPV is willing to guarantee more than DAZN is offering.

[LacedUp]

There's nothing to do. Neither fighter is available. If they both win their next fights, talks will resume as always. The fight is unlikely to happen as long as Hearn insists that both fights take place on DAZN. If he ever agrees to one fight on each platform, then the fight will probably happen.

Hearn didn't insist on anything. He again reiterated that Joshua is only tied to Sky Sports, so please stop with the lies.

DAZN offer the best deal currently. If Showtime want the fight, then need to offer more.

Why would two free agents fight for less money? that's ******, even for a Wilder fanboy.

[Mirror Universe]

Why would two free agents fight for less money? that's ******

That's a great question.

UK generates less than US.

DAZN generates less than PPV.

Which side kept insisting on UK and DAZN and which side just wanted to maximize revenue?

You put yourself in checkmate.

[LacedUp]

That's a great question.

UK generates less than US.

DAZN generates less than PPV.

Which side kept insisting on UK and DAZN and which side just wanted to maximize revenue?

You put yourself in checkmate.

If PPV generates more than DAZN is willing to pay up front, then why don't they commit it?