Is It POSSIBLE Floyd USED Ariza Shakes for PAC?

[travestyny]

I was not referring to rehydration in the sense of a sick person puking their guts out from a virus. I meant in the sense of an athlete. There's no way he needed that much, and that's why it's banned at those levels.

Bro, 750ml is not an exorbitant amount of IV fluid. The 1000ml is not only given to very sick people. It's given to just replenish a person, or even for a person who has a hangover. You can find this at any IV clinic. The standard amount, whether sick or not, is usually 1000ml.

Since you've acknowledged it's when USADA visits, then you obviously see the use of the IV in masking steroids. Notice that it can mask both ways, both prior substances and those taken after administration. His pee would not be "diluted," if they add stuff to his body afterward.

Huh? If he was going to take PED's after USADA left, then there would be no reason to mask with an IV. That makes no sense.

An IV taken May 1st isn't going to help him to mask PED's when they check another undiluted urine sample after the fight is over.

Also, the mere fact USADA is trying to grant exemptions weeks after a fight, when they can't even grant them in the first place (the commission is supposed to), is telling.

That's not true at all.

A retroactive TUE is a standard part of WADA's protocol, and of course USADA can grant the TUE for it because the only reason he needed a TUE is because of WADA's rules, not the commission's rules.

At that time, the commission had no rules regarding IV use at all. It was not illegal. The absolute only reason he needed an IV is because USADA was involved and had to follow WADA's rules.

[IceTrayDaGang]

I have never accused Pacquiao because his head grew, so I don't know what you're talking about. But you're saying Floyd flushed his system with an IV, which makes no sense being that two separate entity checked the urine to ensure it wasn't diluted. And you're trying to say the IV makes it more likely when the fact of the matter is wrecking a fight because you need a whopping 24 days to recover from less than 2tbsp of blood is more su****ious. One was actually being tested. The other found a way out and wasn't tested. You'd be skinning Mayweather alive too if he refused a fight because he claims to need 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tbsps of blood.





And I'm going to leave it at this:

Once again, my point is that none of these guys have any solid proof of doping, so why even worry about this? Just enjoy the fights!

so when marquez knocked manny out he was on the juice then right according to you? or does this only apply to manny and his back acne? (which is nowhere near marrquez).

[travestyny]

so why do you think manny was on peds then???

Bro, I never said Manny was on PEDs!!!!

so an IV flush doesnt mean anything but pac asking for a cut off mean he's looking to juice up right?

Again, I didn't say that. Only he knows why he needed 24 days to recover from giving blood.

see this is what i am talking about. you need to stop doing this. asking for a cut off was manny's way of countering floyd's blood testing request! we've been thru this already.

But he didn't counter it. He agreed to testing but said he needed 24 days to recover. Floyd said he would compromise and offered 14 days for Pac to recover. Pac said absolutely not.


Then Pac finally agreed to no cut off in 2015.

[travestyny]

so when marquez knocked manny out he was on the juice then right according to you?

or does this only apply to manny and his back acne? (which is nowhere near marrquez).

He might have been! I have no idea! It's certainly su****ious but I have no proof.

[Chuckguy]

Floyd already cheated and used IV vs Pac. Yet Pac was denied of shoulder pain killers.

Floyd won 8-4 IMO.

Pretty much this is spot on

[IceTrayDaGang]

Bro, I never said Manny was on PEDs!!!!




Again, I didn't say that. Only he knows why he needed 24 days to recover from giving blood.



But he didn't counter it. He agreed to testing but said he needed 24 days to recover. Floyd said he would compromise and offered 14 days for Pac to recover. Pac said absolutely not.


Then Pac finally agreed to no cut off in 2015.

that's him countering it!!! he agreed to blood testing only if he gets the 24 days cut off. negotiation works both ways man. if pac agreed to floyd's 14 days, then what's the point of even asking for 24 in the first place???!! manny asking for 24 was "HIS" way of countering back. floyd didnt like it.

so you never accused manny of being on peds??? then what's all this going back and forth for? why bring up back acne? why bring up asking for a cut off?

[Luilun]

I’m just saying, people say Ward, Jacobs, Andrade, and Haney are cheaters because they work with Conte...

So isn’t also plausible for Floyd and Ariza?

Why do you think he used IV Flush

[GhostofDempsey]

Your su****ions are fair, of course. Why no Pacquiao?

For me I didn't buy the timing of the accusations or the motives, or some of the claims being made to substantiate those accusations.

A common observation by Floyd and his supporters was Manny's weight gain over the course of his career. About 35 pounds over the course of 15 years. Yet, Floyd made the same gains in the exact amount of time when you factor in his weight as an amateur (107) all the way to 147. Floyd also had a higher KO% from 140 and up.

[todisday]

Bro, 750ml is not an exorbitant amount of IV fluid. The 1000ml is not only given to very sick people. It's given to just replenish a person, or even for a person who has a hangover. You can find this at any IV clinic. The standard amount, whether sick or ot, is usually 1000ml.


Huh? If he was going to take PED's after USADA left, then there would be no reason to mask with an IV. That makes no sense.

An IV taken May 1st isn't going to help him to mask PED's when they check another undiluted urine sample after the fight is over.



That's not true at all.

A retroactive TUE is a standard part of WADA's protocol, and of course USADA can grant the TUE for it because the only reason he needed a TUE is because of WADA's rules, not the commission's rules.

At that time, the commission had no rules regarding IV use at all. It was not illegal. The absolute only reason he needed an IV is because USADA was involved and had to follow WADA's rules.

Yeah it would, actually, help him mask PED use. These guys understand when to flush the body, and when to do whatever else needs to be done. They know when the range is detectable, and when it is not.

NSAC themselves said only they can issue an exemption. Floyd's fighting under their rules. Just because Mayweather claims they don't have any rules for exemptions doesn't make that true at all.

[SHOOTALLCLOWNS]

gayweather jr has cheated before no doubt about it. look up the IV scandal!!! also gayweather jr gym has been known to provide its fighters with PEDs.