Is It POSSIBLE Floyd USED Ariza Shakes for PAC?

[Combat Talk Radio]

I’m just saying, people say Ward, Jacobs, Andrade, and Haney are cheaters because they work with Conte...

So isn’t also plausible for Floyd and Ariza?

Sure. But know what that implies.

Since it's on record Manny was using the shakes, that means he was a cheater.

Now, since Floyd arguably regressed from a tactical standpoint after beating Guerrero, it's unlikely. Possible, but highly unlikely.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Sure. But know what that implies.

Since it's on record Manny was using the shakes, that means he was a cheater.

Now, since Floyd arguably regressed from a tactical standpoint after beating Guerrero, it's unlikely. Possible, but highly unlikely.

Ward worked with Conte. Jacobs, Andrade, Haney, Mikey all use SNAC. Are they cheaters?

James Toney got caught under Roach... does that mean any fighter under Roach is a cheater, like Cotto?

If Cotto had advisory that Toney got caught in roids under Roach why would he train with him?

[boliodogs]

I’m just saying, people say Ward, Jacobs, Andrade, and Haney are cheaters because they work with Conte...

So isn’t also plausible for Floyd and Ariza?

Sure it's possible. Has it been proven that any illegal stuff is in those shakes or that just people guessing. Many people assume the worst when they know nothing. As far as Conte goes he is all for strict drug testing so why would he be cheating?

[IceTrayDaGang]

Neither would be found guilty in a court of law. That makes no sense.

What about the one who refused testing for 50% of the biggest fight in the world and has a shlt load of back acne?

Just stop it. It's ridiculous. An IV doesn't do what you think it does. It masks a urine test by dilution. The urine sample is required to be tested for dilution by two separate entity. That ends the IV discussion.

he never refuse, he asked for a cut off. and how does that prove that he's juicing? did he used an IV to flush it out of his system? if manny was to use the IV you would have skinned him alive bruh so dont even front on this. yall accused manny of juicing because "his head grew".. now imagine if pac actually went and used the IV!!

and pac's back acne??? let me know when it looks like this. then we can talk. so you believe marquez was on the juice based on the acne which you brought up as a sign of juicing then right??? travs, we've been thru this many times already. this is beating a dead horse. im gonna leave it at this.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Sure it's possible. Has it been proven that any illegal stuff is in those shakes or that just people guessing. Many people assume the worst when they know nothing. As far as Conte goes he is all for strict drug testing so why would he be cheating?

Ask THEFRESHBRAWLER

He says anyone who has worked with a suspect person is cheater. He calls all SNAC fighters cheaters. So if we use his logic then Floyd chose to work with Ariza for what reason? Lol

[travestyny]

he never refuse, he asked for a cut off. and how does that prove that he's juicing? did he used an IV to flush it out of his system? if manny was to use the IV you would have skinned him alive bruh so dont even front on this. yall accused manny of juicing because "his head grew".. now imagine if pac actually went and used the IV!!

I have never accused Pacquiao because his head grew, so I don't know what you're talking about. But you're saying Floyd flushed his system with an IV, which makes no sense being that two separate entity checked the urine to ensure it wasn't diluted. And you're trying to say the IV makes it more likely when the fact of the matter is wrecking a fight because you need a whopping 24 days to recover from less than 2tbsp of blood is more su****ious. One was actually being tested. The other found a way out and wasn't tested. You'd be skinning Mayweather alive too if he refused a fight because he claims to need 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tbsps of blood.

and pac's back acne??? let me know when it looks like this. then we can talk. so you believe marquez was on the juice based on the acne which you brought up as a sign of juicing then right??? travs, we've been thru this many times already. this is beating a dead horse. im gonna leave it at this.

And I'm going to leave it at this:

Once again, my point is that none of these guys have any solid proof of doping, so why even worry about this? Just enjoy the fights!

[GhostofDempsey]

I think he was juicing long before Ariza came along. Obviously it cannot be proven, but there are certain fighters who I suspect of PED use or were found guilty of use over the years, even fighters who I liked such as Roy Jones, Holyfield, Mosley, Toney, so my su****ion of Floyd isn't coming from my dislike for him, it's coming from my observations of his development over the years and his actions regarding testing to include his relationship with USADA and rumors of sealed documents and usage. I also suspect Marquez, Berchelt, The Charlo Bros., and possibly even Spence. But that is just my opinion.

[travestyny]

I think he was juicing long before Ariza came along. Obviously it cannot be proven, but there are certain fighters who I suspect of PED use or were found guilty of use over the years, even fighters who I liked such as Roy Jones, Holyfield, Mosley, Toney, so my su****ion of Floyd isn't coming from my dislike for him, it's coming from my observations of his development over the years and his actions regarding testing to include his relationship with USADA and rumors of sealed documents and usage. I also suspect Marquez, Berchelt, The Charlo Bros., and possibly even Spence. But that is just my opinion.

Your su****ions are fair, of course. Why no Pacquiao?

[Thuglife Nelo]

I think he was juicing long before Ariza came along. Obviously it cannot be proven, but there are certain fighters who I suspect of PED use or were found guilty of use over the years, even fighters who I liked such as Roy Jones, Holyfield, Mosley, Toney, so my su****ion of Floyd isn't coming from my dislike for him, it's coming from my observations of his development over the years and his actions regarding testing to include his relationship with USADA and rumors of sealed documents and usage. I also suspect Marquez, Berchelt, The Charlo Bros., and possibly even Spence. But that is just my opinion.

Sealed documents?

[Lopez_Boxing]

You need to understand the concept of Parody and ownership. Are SNAC guys cheaters? I say Jacobs, Mikey and Andrade are clean. Do I have a right to believe this or are they cheaters because they work with Conte? This is comparable standards not negativity.

None of this makes sense. It's all a reach. You can believe what you want, but You're simply gossiping. It's a very negative thing to do. Negative and immature.