Is It POSSIBLE Floyd USED Ariza Shakes for PAC?
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Dude, he flushes his body before the fight. He doesn't do it on fightnight. The levels he was taking were way above what's needed for rehydration. Floyd's intention isn't to dilute his pee on fightnight, at least not in that sense; his intention is to mask steroid use.What do you mean by flush your body? It doesn't work like that.
I'm like a broken record with this. An IV can be used to mask a urine test by dilution. A urine sample is not allowed to be diluted with regards to testing. It is tested for dilution by two separate, independent entity. First the doping control officer performs a specific gravity test to make sure the urine is not diluted. Then, the independent WADA lab tests the sample with a specific gravity test to make sure it's not diluted.
If Floyd's sample was diluted, the lab would have noticed, it would have automatically been entered into the ADAMS system, and the results would be sent to WADA. This is more complex than you guys think. USADA would have to answer to WADA if they allowed a diluted urine sample to be relied on for testing.
Here ya go:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...cording-report
"LAS VEGAS -- On the eve of his record-breaking megafight with Manny Pacquiao on May 2, pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather took an intravenous injection of saline and vitamins that was banned under World Anti-Doping Agency guidelines, according to a report by SB Nation on Wednesday.
Three weeks after the fight, Mayweather received an exemption from the United States Anti-Doping Agency, the report said. However, Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Bob Bennett said USADA does not have authorization to grant an exemption. Bennett said only the commission, which was not notified of the exemption until after it was given, can give an athlete an exemption.
Although the substances contained in the IV were not banned by WADA, whose standards USADA says it follows, the fact that they were given intravenously was not allowed.
SB Nation's account said Mayweather's medical team told the collection agents that the IV -- which reportedly included a 250-milliliter mixture of saline and multivitamins and a 500-milliliter mixture of saline and Vitamin C -- was being given to Mayweather for rehydration purposes following the weigh-in.
WADA rules do not allow intravenous infusions or injections of more than 50 milliliters per six hours "except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations."
According to the report, WADA bans such injections and infusions because they can be used to "dilute or mask the presence of another substance."
"More specifically, on May 19, Mayweather applied for (and, on May 20, was granted) a the****utic use exemption for what he says was an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered on May 1.
The IV administration of legal substances of up to 50 milliliters per 6-hour period is permitted under WADA and USADA regulations. The administration of more than 50 milliliters per 6-hour period is prohibited because an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future.
Mayweather acknowledges having received an IV infusion of 750 milliliters (25.361 ounces), an amount equal to roughly 16 percent of the blood normally present in an average adult male."
There's really no defending this. And, as Icarus showed, it's more than probable the testing agencies are in on it as well.Last edited by todisday; 03-15-2019, 11:12 AM.Comment
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Dude, he flushes his body before the fight. He doesn't do it on fightnight. The levels he was taking were way above what's needed for rehydration. Floyd's intention isn't to dilute his pee on fightnight, at least not in that sense; his intention is to mask steroid use.
Here ya go:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...cording-report
"LAS VEGAS -- On the eve of his record-breaking megafight with Manny Pacquiao on May 2, pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather took an intravenous injection of saline and vitamins that was banned under World Anti-Doping Agency guidelines, according to a report by SB Nation on Wednesday.
Three weeks after the fight, Mayweather received an exemption from the United States Anti-Doping Agency, the report said. However, Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Bob Bennett said USADA does not have authorization to grant an exemption. Bennett said only the commission, which was not notified of the exemption until after it was given, can give an athlete an exemption.
Although the substances contained in the IV were not banned by WADA, whose standards USADA says it follows, the fact that they were given intravenously was not allowed.
SB Nation's account said Mayweather's medical team told the collection agents that the IV -- which reportedly included a 250-milliliter mixture of saline and multivitamins and a 500-milliliter mixture of saline and Vitamin C -- was being given to Mayweather for rehydration purposes following the weigh-in.
WADA rules do not allow intravenous infusions or injections of more than 50 milliliters per six hours "except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations."
According to the report, WADA bans such injections and infusions because they can be used to "dilute or mask the presence of another substance."
"More specifically, on May 19, Mayweather applied for (and, on May 20, was granted) a the****utic use exemption for what he says was an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered on May 1.
The IV administration of legal substances of up to 50 milliliters per 6-hour period is permitted under WADA and USADA regulations. The administration of more than 50 milliliters per 6-hour period is prohibited because an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future.
Mayweather acknowledges having received an IV infusion of 750 milliliters (25.361 ounces), an amount equal to roughly 16 percent of the blood normally present in an average adult male."
There's really no defending this. And, as Icarus showed, it's more than probable the testing agencies are in on it as well.
I still don't know what you are trying to say.
I never said he wanted to dilute his sample on fight night. He would want to dilute his sample. Obviously the sample is not taken on fight night. It is taken when USADA visits.
And no, it wasn't more than is given for rehydration. He took less than what is given for a hangover. In fact, the amount that is usually given for rehydration is 1000ml.
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Any IV rehydration clinic offers IV rehydration, and it is nearly always 1000ml.
What you are referring to is the amount that is allowed by WADA without getting a TUE, which is basically nothing. 50ml isn't going to rehydrate you. You can google any rehydration center and they will offer you 1000ml of IV fluid. He took 750ml.Last edited by travestyny; 03-15-2019, 11:19 AM.Comment
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Why are you even debating that dude? He’s weird and has the iq of a box of rocks. Anytime someone start bring up ****sexual stuff it says a lot about their personal life. You’re above him Lopez. Don’t let him troll youComment
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You're 100% right. Shame on me.....right on my manComment
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For the sake of what we call rebuttals you criticized my “sig” so I’m assuming you don’t like the idea of smashing young poon or somehow posting a pic of a phat ass makes me gay? All while the context is a picture, I use your logic and assume your influence has me to believe you prefer a pic of men sandwiched on a girl? I don’t know dude, I just keep it simple and assume you’re a phag, simplyComment
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You never about the fight? Anybody working with Conte got you buzzed. Remember when you said Ward, Jacobs, Andrade, Haney “are all cheaters” as you say because Conte is a felon like Don King? Remember you said those things bruva!?Comment
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I still don't know what you are trying to say.
I never said he wanted to dilute his sample on fight night. He would want to dilute his sample. Obviously the sample is not taken on fight night. It is taken when USADA visits.
And no, it wasn't more than is given for rehydration. He took less than what is given for a hangover. In fact, the amount that is usually given for rehydration is 1000ml.
Any IV rehydration clinic offers IV rehydration, and it is nearly always 1000ml.
I was not referring to rehydration in the sense of a sick person puking their guts out from a virus. I meant in the sense of an athlete. There's no way he needed that much, and that's why it's banned at those levels.
Since you've acknowledged it's when USADA visits, then you obviously see the use of the IV in masking steroids. Notice that it can mask both ways, both prior substances and those taken after administration. His pee would not be "diluted," if they add stuff to his body afterward.
Also, the mere fact USADA is trying to grant exemptions weeks after a fight, when they can't even grant them in the first place (the commission is supposed to), is telling.Comment
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so why do you think manny was on peds then???I have never accused Pacquiao because his head grew, so I don't know what you're talking about. But you're saying Floyd flushed his system with an IV, which makes no sense being that two separate entity checked the urine to ensure it wasn't diluted. And you're trying to say the IV makes it more likely when the fact of the matter is wrecking a fight because you need a whopping 24 days to recover from less than 2tbsp of blood is more su****ious. One was actually being tested. The other found a way out and wasn't tested. You'd be skinning Mayweather alive too if he refused a fight because he claims to need 24 days to recover from giving less than 2 tbsps of blood.
And I'm going to leave it at this:

Once again, my point is that none of these guys have any solid proof of doping, so why even worry about this? Just enjoy the fights!
so an IV flush doesnt mean anything but pac asking for a cut off mean he's looking to juice up right?
see this is what i am talking about. you need to stop doing this. asking for a cut off was manny's way of countering floyd's blood testing request! we've been thru this already.Comment
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