Wilder Smiles: Next fight on Showtime PPV vs Breazale

[miniq]

Wilder Brezeale is not PPV material.

The press are going to tear Wilder a new one asking about how he feels about his loss to Fury & how butthurt he is Fury got an ESPN deal. He'll probably rage quit and take it out on Brezeale. poor guy.

[Deus]

Eye test makes it pretty clear that Jarell Miller is worse than Dominic Breazeale.

Wilder-Fury drew 325k (plus whatever Showtime sold directly to folks online); to account for a significant chunk of folks tuning in to watch Fury is asinine.

On May 18th, the world win tune in to see Deontay Wilder, the heavyweight champion of the world, make 8th defense of his world title and again show the world why the other champion is running scared.

It's the Deontay Wilder Show.

Eye test makes it pretty clear that Miller is worse than Breazeale? I'm confused i'm sure i've seen with my own eyes Dominic Breazeale be battered from pillar to post for 7 rounds by Joshua.... he certainly wasn't passing any eye test then.

Don't really think much to Miller but at least there's some intrigue in the sense that he's yet to step up and thus we don't 100% know how he is going to be in a big fight... but Breazeale did step up and showed that he just does not cut the mustard.

[Scipio2009]

How can that be possible if he doesn't bring in any money and doesn't sell any tickets?

That's a great question, isn't it?

[Scipio2009]

listen to wilders interview in the BoxingVoice he said he’s going to DAZN himself lol

To then take what was heard back to the team and weigh it out. Try some consistency for once.

Showtime has a pretty clear plan for Wilder, from what I can see anyway; Fury PPV, Fury 2 PPV, try for the Joshua fight but if not Breazeale PPV, try for the Joshua fight but if not Ortiz2 PPV, Joshua PPV or The Deontay Wilder Show on PPV (Wilder-TBA; current landscape would peg Adam Kownacki), Joshua PPV or The Deontay Wilder Show (Wilder-TBA; current landscape would peg Joe Joyce), Joshua PPV or TBA.

Fury ducking the rematch and
bringing the Top Rank offer changed the plan, but the plan is still there; Fury PPV, a business-risk Breazeale PPV, Joshua or Ortiz2 PPV, Joshua or Kownacki PPV, Joshua or Joe Joyce PPV, Joshua PPV or TBD.

What does DAZN have to offer, and will it be enough to give up his freedom for however long to secure the deal?

Tune-up, tune-up, Joshua, maybe a Joshua rematch if Joshua wants it, tune-up, tune-up likely won't cut it.

[CharlieStewart]

Wilder Brezeale is not PPV material.

The press are going to tear Wilder a new one asking about how he feels about his loss to Fury & how butthurt he is Fury got an ESPN deal. He'll probably rage quit and take it out on Brezeale. poor guy.

US media holding American paper champ accountable? Never.

[Deus]

To then take what was heard back to the team and weigh it out. Try some consistency for once.

Showtime has a pretty clear plan for Wilder, from what I can see anyway; Fury PPV, Fury 2 PPV, try for the Joshua fight but if not Breazeale PPV, try for the Joshua fight but if not Ortiz2 PPV, Joshua PPV or The Deontay Wilder Show on PPV (Wilder-TBA; current landscape would peg Adam Kownacki), Joshua PPV or The Deontay Wilder Show (Wilder-TBA; current landscape would peg Joe Joyce), Joshua PPV or TBA.

Fury ducking the rematch and
bringing the Top Rank offer changed the plan, but the plan is still there; Fury PPV, a business-risk Breazeale PPV, Joshua or Ortiz2 PPV, Joshua or Kownacki PPV, Joshua or Joe Joyce PPV, Joshua PPV or TBD.

What does DAZN have to offer, and will it be enough to give up his freedom for however long to secure the deal?

Tune-up, tune-up, Joshua, maybe a Joshua rematch if Joshua wants it, tune-up, tune-up likely won't cut it.

Showtime can't guarantee Wilder Joshua or Fury; they simply don't have the budget to make that happen. What they can offer is Breazeale, Ortiz, Kownacki and Joyce all on PPV... which is going to fall flat to all but the most ardent Wilder fans.

What DAZN offers is a guarantee of a Joshua fight. That one fight is bigger than everything that Showtime can guarantee Wilder.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder Brezeale is not PPV material.

The press are going to tear Wilder a new one asking about how he feels about his loss to Fury & how butthurt he is Fury got an ESPN deal. He'll probably rage quit and take it out on Brezeale. poor guy.

Except they won't though; everyone knows what the deal is. It's the reason why Joshua's press run went way different this time, and why most reputable press (even ESPN) lambasted Fury for taking the rematch talks to the 2-yard line, having fair terms, ditching that, and then publicly telling the WBC that he didn't actually want the fight.

Wilder is doing his part, and folks recognize it; Wilder is taking this fight because the guy that he was supposed to fight literally saw life flash before his eyes and decided that $17.5m and a 50/50 of any upside wasn't worth it.

Bob Arum coming out and saying that the $100m figure was bull**** didn't help things for Fury, lol; now let's see what the press says when Fury's tune-up is announced.

[Scipio2009]

Eye test makes it pretty clear that Miller is worse than Breazeale? I'm confused i'm sure i've seen with my own eyes Dominic Breazeale be battered from pillar to post for 7 rounds by Joshua.... he certainly wasn't passing any eye test then.

Don't really think much to Miller but at least there's some intrigue in the sense that he's yet to step up and thus we don't 100% know how he is going to be in a big fight... but Breazeale did step up and showed that he just does not cut the mustard.

Have you seen Miller fight?

Even against the level that he's fought at, he hasn't shown too much beyond being able to lean on folks and be busy.

I'm good off of that

[Scipio2009]

Showtime can't guarantee Wilder Joshua or Fury; they simply don't have the budget to make that happen. What they can offer is Breazeale, Ortiz, Kownacki and Joyce all on PPV... which is going to fall flat to all but the most ardent Wilder fans.

What DAZN offers is a guarantee of a Joshua fight. That one fight is bigger than everything that Showtime can I guarantee Wilder.

PPV fights are separate from the regular budget, lol.

[killakali]

To then take what was heard back to the team and weigh it out. Try some consistency for once.

Showtime has a pretty clear plan for Wilder, from what I can see anyway; Fury PPV, Fury 2 PPV, try for the Joshua fight but if not Breazeale PPV, try for the Joshua fight but if not Ortiz2 PPV, Joshua PPV or The Deontay Wilder Show on PPV (Wilder-TBA; current landscape would peg Adam Kownacki), Joshua PPV or The Deontay Wilder Show (Wilder-TBA; current landscape would peg Joe Joyce), Joshua PPV or TBA.

Fury ducking the rematch and
bringing the Top Rank offer changed the plan, but the plan is still there; Fury PPV, a business-risk Breazeale PPV, Joshua or Ortiz2 PPV, Joshua or Kownacki PPV, Joshua or Joe Joyce PPV, Joshua PPV or TBD.

What does DAZN have to offer, and will it be enough to give up his freedom for however long to secure the deal?

Tune-up, tune-up, Joshua, maybe a Joshua rematch if Joshua wants it, tune-up, tune-up likely won't cut it.

Lmao at showtime plan. The reason why showtime would be doing the Breazeale fight on ppv is because Top Rank exposed how underpaid wilder was by pbc. That showtime plan would never work unless wilder loses.

Top rank after Breazeale can just come back and offer wilder 20 or 25 million for fury. They don’t need showtime for anything. Neither does wilder.

Top rank just opened wilders eyes that he has been screwed over for years when Dillian Whyte was making more than him for most of his fights.

As for the DAZN plan u sure aren’t too bright or dontnknow who they have.

It would be Wilder vs Breazeale on DAZN
Then vs joshua 2-3x
Then Usyk if he wins two
Miller if he loses two.
Plus possible rematches

And you forget if wilder leaves there will be an exodus from pbc. Guys like Ortiz Kownacki and Breazeale will probably go to DAZN too.

Wilder as long as he wins is a ppv or streamed card fighter from here on out. He’s never going back to regular showtime or fox. Why would he fight for peanuts on those networks when top rank and DAZN will give him 8 figures to fight the likes of Dominic Breazeale ?

Wilders eyes have been opened by Canelo and GGG and Fury’s deals. He said himself he wants wants generational wealth and he has to leave pbc to get it.