Wilder Smiles: Next fight on Showtime PPV vs Breazale

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  • killakali
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    #191
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Do you honestly think that Bob Arum was going to to pay $12.5m to Deontay Wilder to fight on ESPN or ESPN+? Khan is getting his $5m, Crawford is getting his $3m, and Arum is pushing that BS fight to PPV, lol.

    Wilder-Breazeale is now PPV; that wasn't the initial plan for this fight, but that's the move. Wilder does the business that he's supposed to, and he rolls into another PPV in the second half of the year.

    Joshua, Ortiz2, or Fury (Fury thinking $17.5m and 50% of the take was short to him likely kills that fight).

    Tyson Fury is fighting a bum for $4m in June on ESPN+, and if he can't get the Wilder fight, will be fighting another bum on ESPN+ for $4m.

    Joshua has the Miller voluntary in June, and then has to fight Pulev next (if not, he'll lose the IBF title) if he doesn't fight Wilder.

    It's chess not checkers.
    shelley finkel already confirmed the 12.5 mil figure

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      #192
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      Wilder is going to PPV soon; if Fury hadn't turned punk, he'd have had the December and May PPVs to start his run, but now it's a bit of a gamble with the Breazeale PPV.

      With no obligation to anyone but his management team, Wilder is heading into his PPV run with the most proven PPV marketer backing him (and the actual broadest reach network in the camp too).

      And none of Wilder's money is hinged on any one particular fight.
      ppv run ? Lmao. He needed fury to move 325k units. Breazeale won’t get much past 100k.

      Fury didn’t punk out. He’s making more money now and Fury got wilder more money too. Wilder would have been fighting Breazle for 3 million or less on SHO and thanks rob bob Arum and Fury he will quadruple his salary. Probably even more once he signs with DAZN.

      There’s no reason for him to stay at pbc. A 3-4 fight deal with DAZN or espn would make him the most money and give him legacy defining
      Fights.

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        #193
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        you literally have 0 grasp of whats going on..i feel sorry for you

        wilder is one of the highest paid American boxers...he makes good US market value....

        you have 0 clue what furys deal really is...arum even called the number absolute nonsense

        the uk and us boxing markets are NOT the same...what AJ makes will not be made by a US fighter right now.....

        wilder hasn't been getting ****ed...hes been getting his market share.....

        the only reason anyone is offering him big money to fight brezeale is that they know its above his market value...but that with it they'll get 100 percent control of his aj fight and they'll have the option on the winner

        wilder isn't getting ****ed by anyone and he hasn't been

        wilder didn't say he was unhappy where he was...he simply said hes free to fight wherever if those guys wanna fight right now! but they don't....they both want interim fights and will fight if he signs options with their network!

        you have 0 grasp of whats goin on and prob think fury has an 80 mil check in his pocket u dumb ****
        You your IQ is about 7. Just like those other posters stated.

        Fury is about to get paid double vs a meh opponent than what wilder got in a life and death fight vs Ortiz.

        Fury’s 100 million deal hinges on opponents. One thing for sure is fury and bob arum did Wilder a favor. He should give them 10% lmao.

        Wilder would be fighting Breazeale on showtime for 3 mil or less if Fury didn’t go to espn. Now arum has inflated wilders value.

        If wilder had been smart he would have had finkel and DiBella go around home back last year and already got the deal done to go to DAZN.

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          #194
          can't wait to pay $75 to watch this in showtime HD

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            #195
            Originally posted by Mirror Universe
            Didn't ESPN just offer him $12.5 million to fight Breazeale? Didn't Hearn just offer him $15 million to fight Breazeale?

            You sure he doesn't bring in any money?

            I don't pay attention to ticket sales so I'll have to take your word on that, but he must bring in money if so many people want to pay him so much money.
            Wilder makes money if Fury or Joshua are in the opposite corner. Outside of that, no he does not. Wilder is nothing without these 2.

            Victor Ortiz made money when fighting Floyd. But outside of that? Not in hells chance.

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              #196
              Originally posted by New England
              joshua wouldn't take a 50 million dollar guarantee with an upside. either he's taking more than 50 50, or wilder really does bring a lot to the table, because 50 million would be a huge payday for any HW and the biggest guarantee ever for a fighter not named floyd or manny.


              it's pretty simple, really. you put a fight in las vegas and you draw from an international as well as domestic american audience native to the biggest economy in the world. really, just look at the GDP, and you have you answer. hearn has alluded to this many times, saying, "the fight is bigger in america, but we want it in the UK." problem is that he's now fighting for less money and still in america, and you can see that the idea was to push off the wilder fight from '18 and into the second half of '19 at the earliest.
              The 50 Mill offer has been destroyed too many times. I'm not wasting any more time doing it again because the insane people just brush it under the carpet and carry on.

              The offer was made due to what Joshua generates, not Wilder. Without AJ or Fury in the opposite corner, Wilder makes peanuts. He doesn't generate ****. Unless you believe he does and that Haymon has been ripping off for all these years?

              AJ is making his biggest payday against Miller, so you're wrong there as well.

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                #197
                Originally posted by killakali
                your numbers are the reason people laugh at you. First Crawford’s espn minimum is more than 3 million which isn’t even his ppv minimum lol lololol.

                Secondly the offer by top rank was 12.5 for wilder. Espn is investing more into boxing, specifically the heavyweight division.

                Their is no big 2nd ppv fight on SHO for wilder lol. If he wants fury or Joshua he needs to go to DAZN or espn and he knows that and he is going to do it.

                Haymon keeps trying to talk him out of it but he sees how badly under paid he’s been with pbc. Fury is making 4-5 million to fight a bum. Wilder for half that for a much more risky fight vs Ortiz.

                Wilder and Jermall will be signed to DAZN before the end of March. Any unbiased observer can see that and would agree leaving pbc is the right move for them.
                Crawford is Bob Arum's fighter, ESPN basically has a 360-deal on Top Rank, Crawford-Khan is going to PPV, and the guarantees on that fight are well below this $12.5m offer to Wilder.

                Not that hard

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by Scipio2009
                  Crawford is Bob Arum's fighter, ESPN basically has a 360-deal on Top Rank, Crawford-Khan is going to PPV, and the guarantees on that fight are well below this $12.5m offer to Wilder.

                  Not that hard
                  Crawford isn’t making 3 million for the fight. Why do u lie and make things up?

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                  • Scipio2009
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                    #199
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    your numbers are the reason people laugh at you. First Crawford’s espn minimum is more than 3 million which isn’t even his ppv minimum lol lololol.

                    Secondly the offer by top rank was 12.5 for wilder. Espn is investing more into boxing, specifically the heavyweight division.

                    Their is no big 2nd ppv fight on SHO for wilder lol. If he wants fury or Joshua he needs to go to DAZN or espn and he knows that and he is going to do it.

                    Haymon keeps trying to talk him out of it but he sees how badly under paid he’s been with pbc. Fury is making 4-5 million to fight a bum. Wilder for half that for a much more risky fight vs Ortiz.

                    Wilder and Jermall will be signed to DAZN before the end of March. Any unbiased observer can see that and would agree leaving pbc is the right move for them.
                    Anthony Joshua isn't obligated to DAZN, Wilder isn't obligated to Showtime, and Wilder-Joshua is a gigantic fight.

                    I honestly think you don't understand how much money that fight could be expected to do on PPV, lol.

                    Wilder vs Joshua, for the undisputed heavyweight championship (and the first undisputed/actual lineal champion since Lennox Lewis).

                    Bury your head in the sand if you want

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                    • killakali
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Anthony Joshua isn't obligated to DAZN, Wilder isn't obligated to Showtime, and Wilder-Joshua is a gigantic fight.

                      I honestly think you don't understand how much money that fight could be expected to do on PPV, lol.

                      Wilder vs Joshua, for the undisputed heavyweight championship (and the first undisputed/actual lineal champion since Lennox Lewis).

                      Bury your head in the sand if you want
                      u ignore that you lied about what Crawford is mking vs khan.

                      U also ignore the fact that Joshua makes over 20 mil a fight without showtime. Canelo over 35 mil a fight. Showtime isn’t needed to give wilder his career high payday.

                      Wilder is just now learning that Haymon and pbc has been under paying him

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