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  • #41
    Hagler thinks he was robbed by SRL. I don’t recall Hagler diehards bringing up that narrative. We should enjoy what’s left, this generation of GGG fans.

    On a real note. GGG and Abel are bad for each other. Knowing Abel, whom likes to be in the limelight, is urging GGG to make a decision since long layoffs aren’t always a good thing. Though, sometimes it’s vital after a really hard fight. Khan took a long time off because of this, and GGG never took damage like hay ever before. He did against Ouma, but he was a young gun back then so he could recoup easier, and Ouma doesn’t have Canelo power.

    GGG should just take the PBC offer, and Abel should stop worrying about Charlo. Abel flat out said that Charlo never deserved a shot, well times have changed, and as we can see, GGG fans want the Charlo fight. I believe GGG will fight anybody, but surely he is no dummy seeing the size of Charlo today at 160. He bigger than Jacobs.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
      He ain't been the same since Canelo physically and mentally broke him. Canelo took his belts, his balls and his soul. lol Took every excuse GGG made from the first fight for why he looked bad and flipped it on his head. You remember GGG only looked bad because Canelo ran and wouldn't fight Mexican Style? He cried and begged for Canelo to stand and fight him Mexican Style. Well Canelo brought Mexican Style and where was GGG for the Mexican Style fight? GGG tapped out. Backed up, got his face broken and his own trainer told him to his face stop doing that you are losing the fight then his own trainer spent hours after the fight doing dozens of interviews saying GGG didn't win the fight and praised Canelo. GGG knew he lost that's why he pulled a broner running out the ring. lol

      Canelo not only beat the Mexican Style out of him but beat him so bad he forgot how to speak English showed up at the press conference like a rape victim needing a translator to do all the talking then immediately fell off the face of the earth. He took himself out of the running for a Canelo fight in May. And we are now just 13 days away from March and he still hasn't signed with a Network, still doesn't have a fight date and his own trainer says he hasn't been in the gym. He was supposed to be back in the ring March or April that's what Loeffler said back in Sept/Oct. If he fights any later then June he won't have enough time to be back by Sept and would be taking himself out of the running for Canelo/Jacobs winner. Clock is ticking the longer this goes on the more likely he really might just retire or a take a year off.
      Thanks for the comments, Oscar. I didnt know you posted here.
      Did you get that rolling pin removed from your ass yet?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        He ain't been the same since Canelo physically and mentally broke him. Canelo took his belts, his balls and his soul. lol Took every excuse GGG made from the first fight for why he looked bad and flipped it on his head. You remember GGG only looked bad because Canelo ran and wouldn't fight Mexican Style? He cried and begged for Canelo to stand and fight him Mexican Style. Well Canelo brought Mexican Style and where was GGG for the Mexican Style fight? GGG tapped out. Backed up, got his face broken and his own trainer told him to his face stop doing that you are losing the fight then his own trainer spent hours after the fight doing dozens of interviews saying GGG didn't win the fight and praised Canelo. GGG knew he lost that's why he pulled a broner running out the ring. lol

        Canelo not only beat the Mexican Style out of him but beat him so bad he forgot how to speak English showed up at the press conference like a rape victim needing a translator to do all the talking then immediately fell off the face of the earth. He took himself out of the running for a Canelo fight in May. And we are now just 13 days away from March and he still hasn't signed with a Network, still doesn't have a fight date and his own trainer says he hasn't been in the gym. He was supposed to be back in the ring March or April that's what Loeffler said back in Sept/Oct. If he fights any later then June he won't have enough time to be back by Sept and would be taking himself out of the running for Canelo/Jacobs winner. Clock is ticking the longer this goes on the more likely he really might just retire or a take a year off.
        Damn. That’s ether right there, but I think you’re being too hard on Golovkin. He can win a belt against Plant or Benavidez.

        GGG was in a good spot. Though GGG knew what he was doing with trolling to Loeffler and Abel’s advisory about Mexican style, I’m more than sure he never liked that. He always looked nervous in interviews later in his career because he was advised to act that way. I mean seriously, a Kazakh Man acting like this? GGG probably knew he lowered his self esteem because of all that.

        He made a massive payday and has the luxury to rest a bit and most likely is needed as well. With that reason can also take time to recoup from that hard fight and enjoy a bit of family life. Most people didn’t know Adonis would end up the way he did even though he ate those hard shots down the middle and yet still standing. Canelo is an accurate puncher, and accumulative punches from him at this stage of his career shouldn’t be taken lightly.

        The truth is fans forget that boxers have to go through their usual brains scans after a fight. It might be that the neurologist advised him to take some time off. We can’t fault him for that. Even just a minor notice of random slurred speech or disorientation from focus will have a boxer thinking about damage to the head. People with whiplash in car accidents or accidentally hitting their head hard on a hard surface will experience these things, and yet boxers endure this their whole life. We want GGG to be in his best shape coming back.

        Let’s give GGG benefit of doubt that the Canelo series character is long gone. Abel should just let the Kazakh be himself. Personally I think Loeffler and Abel downgrades his aura because of their own characters in the scene.

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        • #44
          hope not,if hes really aiming to beat hopkins defences then he needs to stick around for another 17.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            One day you will come to grips with reality and admit GGG lost. Hell his own trainer has. When you get your face broken, your own trainer told you were losing the fight then told everyone AFTER the fight you didn't win it's hard cry about the decision especially after Canelo fought you exactly how you begged him to in the rematch and you tapped out Mexican Style wanting to back up and jab



            The overwhelming majority of fighters, trainers thought canelo won including the judges who actually know how to score fights. Including the ONLY judge that thought GGG won the first fight. Even he thought Canelo won. I take these guys words over fanboy media who don't know shyt about boxing. But that's all you got because everyone else admits Canelo won.

            And did I mention GGG own trainer Able Sanchez didn't think GGG won I know that burns you LMAO


            Fighters/trainers who thought GGG lost to Canelo
            Mike Tyson
            George Foreman
            Julio Cesar Chavez
            Miguel Cotto
            Robert Garcia
            Jorge Arce
            Willie Monroe
            Caleb Traux
            Austin Trout
            Cornelius K9 Bundridge
            Andre Ward
            Amir Khan
            Marco Antonio Barrera
            Mikey Garcia
            Andy Lee
            Martin Murray
            Errol Spence
            Sergio Mora
            Bernard Hopkins
            Jorge Linares
            Peter Quillin
            Tony Bellew
            David Haye
            Floyd Mayweather SR
            Erik Morales
            David Lemieux
            Julin Williams
            Peter Smith
            Liam Smith
            Jermell Charlo
            Jermall Charlo
            Claressa Shields
            Caleb Plant
            Jason Quigley
            Anthony Fowler
            Dave Coldwell
            Badou Jack
            Jaime Munguia
            Andy Lee
            Jeff Mayweather
            Dewey Cooper
            Luis Tapia
            Ladarious Miller
            Kevin Newmen
            Rolando Romero
            Fernando Vargas
            Adam Booth
            Josh Kelly
            Jorge Travieso Arce
            Humberto Chiquita González
            Shakur Stevenson
            Devin Haney
            Gavin Rees
            John Molina
            Brandon Krause
            Curtis Stevens
            Ashley Theophane
            Abner Mares
            Michael Conlan
            Roberto Duran
            Yahu Blackwell
            Omar Kabary
            Kelly Pavlik
            Felix Cash
            Gabe Rosado
            Joel Diaz
            Danny Garcia
            Freddie Roach

            But GGG was robbed LMAO
            George Foreman owning GGG fans

            Yeah sure Dunny

            It’s hard to believe anything a poster who if they had to be honest would admit that Golden Boy cuts them a cheque to write here and everything they write is just hollow GB propaganda

            Unfortunately I’m used to Canelo getting decisions he doesn’t deserve and the truth is I was more suprised and pissed at the Lara result then either of the Golovkin fights because you can make a case for Canelo getting a draw and a W against Golovkin if you want to give him every benefit but there is absolutely no way that he won 7 rounds
            From Lara . but they all prove that The dollars you generate are far more important then what you do inside the ring.

            I’m glad you posted your list of fighters that you seemed to have saved on your computer and show anytime Canelos victory is questioned and large # of those opinions shouldnt be considered for a variety of reasons like they arte either a shareholder or fighter under Golden Boy ( Bernard, Mungia ) boss beat Canelo ( Badou, Newman , Mayweathers ) so it makes Mayweather look better , Have aspirations of fighting Canelo in the Future ( Spence , Plant , Charlos ) previous Golovkin victims who got stomped out or were too b.itch made to fight Golovkin ( Lemieux , Rosado , Stevens , Quillen ) and probably a variety of other reasons if you thought about it why their opinion would go with Canelo not because they thought he won but because it’s better for their career to say he did. Obviously some people thought Canelo won but I’m sure you could find just as many and probably more people involved in the sport who thought Golovkin won but you wouldn’t take the effort because that would make you seem reasonable and wouldnt allow you to type your Propaganda.

            I’ve always said Canelo should get props for how he fought in the second fight doesn’t mean he won 7 rounds

            And sure let’s say every media outlet in the World and fans don’t know sh.it and opinions shouldn’t count ( let’s forget over the vast majority had Golovkin winning both fights ) and yeah the only thing that matters at the end of the day is the judges but can you could give a honest explanation that would explain why the Judging doesn’t seem most likely corrupt and at the very least completely incompetent of the job when in the first fight 1 judge was the only person in the entire world who gave Canelo 10 rounds even if say Canelo won ( which he didn’t ) even Oscar says he won 7 rounds. So she gave at least a 3 extra rounds then his own promoter or almost anyone else who watched the sport who believe Canelo won and if you go off what almost everyone acknowledges that Golovkin won at least 7 but probably 8 rounds then she was off by 5-6 rounds so either shes incompetent and can’t score a fight or had it made up who would win before the fight started. But even she had to give Golovkin the 7th round because there’s no way to come up with explanation to give Canelo that round and I’ve yet to see anyone in the sport give Canelo that round except the one Judge who ruled the fight a draw. Which would make you believe that being the only person in the World who gave Canelo that round would have you believe that he either tried to keep the cards close when it appeared Golovkin was taking over by giving Canelo undeserved rounds , doesn’t know how to score a round when it’s obvious to literally everyone else who won that round , was watching a different fight or whos integrity at least should be questioned because he wasn’t scoring the fight how it was. Take your pick. But those 2 judges and their decisions on how they scored the fight made it clear that the sport isn’t played or judged on a level playing field

            This type of f.uckery couldn’t happen again in the rematch and the sport still try and keep its integrity

            But from a list of media and boxers scoring the fight . 40 had it for Golovkin , 17 had it a draw and 2 had it for Canelo. A whopping 3% had Canelo deserving the win with 2/3 thinking Golovkin should have won and almost half thought he won 8 rounds. But all the judges in the fight gave Canelo 6 of the first 9 rounds with 1 giving him 6 of the first 8. Common belief among everyone is that after 9 rounds Most had Golovkin with 5 rounds some had him with 6 and a few had Canelo with 5 rounds. Yet all 3 judges had Canelo winning 6 at that point. So according to almost everyone the Judges are at least 1 round probably 2 rounds off of how everyone saw the fight and after 9 rounds Canelo was guaranteed at least a draw according to the judges and almost no one else and all he needed was 1 more round which he got by 2 judges in the 12 , a round few gave to Canelo who scored the fight . Yes not suspicious at all with Canelo securing a draw by the 9th and getting the 12th very convenient the way it happend giving the benefit with Canelo having enough of the early rounds banked needinfg only 1 round to get the W . I’m Sure the Judges were among the 3% who rightfully had the fight for Canelo and the other 97% of people watching the sport don’t know what their watching

            No favourable judging or giving Canelo every break and opportunity to get the W or at least a draw. Just good old fashioned fair representation of the fight and just like how 3% who actually
            Know the sport saw the fight

            Spin the judging how you see fit and earn your cheque and explain how the Deck wasn’t stacked against Golovkin in both fights and Canelo as usual caught all the breaks and favourable cards and giving him the best chance to win but him being the cash cow has no reason or effect on why the outcomes turned out the way they did and he deserved the decision he got and the 3% who saw it that way and are the only people who know the sport

            Be a good cheerleader and be happy for the Draw and W but don’t pretend like it was actually deserved for what he did in the ring and not given because of the $ he generates

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            • #46
              Still no word from Glovkin?
              Seems the Kazakhstan media is dead.
              Still no news for their national hero.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                Yeah sure Dunny

                It’s hard to believe anything a poster who if they had to be honest would admit that Golden Boy cuts them a cheque to write here and everything they write is just hollow GB propaganda

                Unfortunately I’m used to Canelo getting decisions he doesn’t deserve and the truth is I was more suprised and pissed at the Lara result then either of the Golovkin fights because you can make a case for Canelo getting a draw and a W against Golovkin if you want to give him every benefit but there is absolutely no way that he won 7 rounds
                From Lara . but they all prove that The dollars you generate are far more important then what you do inside the ring.

                I’m glad you posted your list of fighters that you seemed to have saved on your computer and show anytime Canelos victory is questioned and large # of those opinions shouldnt be considered for a variety of reasons like they arte either a shareholder or fighter under Golden Boy ( Bernard, Mungia ) boss beat Canelo ( Badou, Newman , Mayweathers ) so it makes Mayweather look better , Have aspirations of fighting Canelo in the Future ( Spence , Plant , Charlos ) previous Golovkin victims who got stomped out or were too b.itch made to fight Golovkin ( Lemieux , Rosado , Stevens , Quillen ) and probably a variety of other reasons if you thought about it why their opinion would go with Canelo not because they thought he won but because it’s better for their career to say he did. Obviously some people thought Canelo won but I’m sure you could find just as many and probably more people involved in the sport who thought Golovkin won but you wouldn’t take the effort because that would make you seem reasonable and wouldnt allow you to type your Propaganda.

                I’ve always said Canelo should get props for how he fought in the second fight doesn’t mean he won 7 rounds

                And sure let’s say every media outlet in the World and fans don’t know sh.it and opinions shouldn’t count ( let’s forget over the vast majority had Golovkin winning both fights ) and yeah the only thing that matters at the end of the day is the judges but can you could give a honest explanation that would explain why the Judging doesn’t seem most likely corrupt and at the very least completely incompetent of the job when in the first fight 1 judge was the only person in the entire world who gave Canelo 10 rounds even if say Canelo won ( which he didn’t ) even Oscar says he won 7 rounds. So she gave at least a 3 extra rounds then his own promoter or almost anyone else who watched the sport who believe Canelo won and if you go off what almost everyone acknowledges that Golovkin won at least 7 but probably 8 rounds then she was off by 5-6 rounds so either shes incompetent and can’t score a fight or had it made up who would win before the fight started. But even she had to give Golovkin the 7th round because there’s no way to come up with explanation to give Canelo that round and I’ve yet to see anyone in the sport give Canelo that round except the one Judge who ruled the fight a draw. Which would make you believe that being the only person in the World who gave Canelo that round would have you believe that he either tried to keep the cards close when it appeared Golovkin was taking over by giving Canelo undeserved rounds , doesn’t know how to score a round when it’s obvious to literally everyone else who won that round , was watching a different fight or whos integrity at least should be questioned because he wasn’t scoring the fight how it was. Take your pick. But those 2 judges and their decisions on how they scored the fight made it clear that the sport isn’t played or judged on a level playing field

                This type of f.uckery couldn’t happen again in the rematch and the sport still try and keep its integrity

                But from a list of media and boxers scoring the fight . 40 had it for Golovkin , 17 had it a draw and 2 had it for Canelo. A whopping 3% had Canelo deserving the win with 2/3 thinking Golovkin should have won and almost half thought he won 8 rounds. But all the judges in the fight gave Canelo 6 of the first 9 rounds with 1 giving him 6 of the first 8. Common belief among everyone is that after 9 rounds Most had Golovkin with 5 rounds some had him with 6 and a few had Canelo with 5 rounds. Yet all 3 judges had Canelo winning 6 at that point. So according to almost everyone the Judges are at least 1 round probably 2 rounds off of how everyone saw the fight and after 9 rounds Canelo was guaranteed at least a draw according to the judges and almost no one else and all he needed was 1 more round which he got by 2 judges in the 12 , a round few gave to Canelo who scored the fight . Yes not suspicious at all with Canelo securing a draw by the 9th and getting the 12th very convenient the way it happend giving the benefit with Canelo having enough of the early rounds banked needinfg only 1 round to get the W . I’m Sure the Judges were among the 3% who rightfully had the fight for Canelo and the other 97% of people watching the sport don’t know what their watching

                No favourable judging or giving Canelo every break and opportunity to get the W or at least a draw. Just good old fashioned fair representation of the fight and just like how 3% who actually
                Know the sport saw the fight

                Spin the judging how you see fit and earn your cheque and explain how the Deck wasn’t stacked against Golovkin in both fights and Canelo as usual caught all the breaks and favourable cards and giving him the best chance to win but him being the cash cow has no reason or effect on why the outcomes turned out the way they did and he deserved the decision he got and the 3% who saw it that way and are the only people who know the sport

                Be a good cheerleader and be happy for the Draw and W but don’t pretend like it was actually deserved for what he did in the ring and not given because of the $ he generates
                I know why you mad Canelo broke your soul GGG tappped out a Mexican Style fight he cried for in the first place. lol nothing but excuses making for why GGG face ended up like this



                So all the fighters and trainers who overwhelming say GGG lost and all the judges including the ONLY judge who thought he won the first fight are just being paid by Golden Boy? Everyone who thinks he lost is being paid. All these experts on the sport of boxing just don't know shyt about boxing or have a agenda against GGG?

                INCLUDING GGG'S OWN DAMN TRAINER. I GUESS SANCHEZ WAS JUST A DOUBLE AGENT ALL THIS TIME PLANTED IN GGG'S CAMP SECRETLY BEING PAID BY GOLDEN BOY

                His own damn trainer doesn't think he won the fight let that sink in bytch boy

                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post









                But by all means keep crying about it one day you will face reality LMAO
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                  I know why you mad Canelo broke your soul GGG tappped out a Mexican Style fight he cried for in the first place. lol nothing but excuses making for why GGG face ended up like this



                  So all the fighters and trainers who overwhelming say GGG lost and all the judges including the ONLY judge who thought he won the first fight are just being paid by Golden Boy? Everyone who thinks he lost is being paid. All these experts on the sport of boxing just don't know shyt about boxing or have a agenda against GGG?

                  INCLUDING GGG'S OWN DAMN TRAINER. I GUESS SANCHEZ WAS JUST A DOUBLE AGENT ALL THIS TIME PLANTED IN GGG'S CAMP SECRETLY BEING PAID BY GOLDEN BOY

                  His own damn trainer doesn't think he won the fight let that sink in bytch boy





                  But by all means keep crying about it one day you will face reality LMAO
                  Keep earning your cheque Dunny

                  Why do you have all your Golovkin arguments / stats / pics saved ready to release and fire off at any moment? Like WTF , If you were so convinced Canelo actually deserved the win why have all these memes , lists and whatever else ready to go . You wouldn’t need all that because you’d know your guy won

                  Yes Golovkin tapped out he wasn’t dropped , stopped or quit , but yes he tapped out

                  I don’t think pointing out the reality of the situation is crying but I guess that’s all you have when you can’t explain or want to talk about how the judges scorecards aren’t indicative of the fights and the fighter who’s employer cuts you a cheque is the fighter who benefited from it

                  I never said they were paid off but it does seem they are influenced by keeping the cash cow winning for some reason or incompetent at their jobs because they scored a fight how 3% saw it

                  As far as Abel he knows his fighter was up against the cash cow and wouldn’t catch any breaks why b.itch over it .similar to when May fought PAC and Sr told Floyd henwas losing when he wasn’t but thought that Manny being the perceived good guy he’d get rounds thrown his way he didn’t deserve so you say it to try and get your fighter to attempt for them to push it and leave no doubt or any reason why they can’t give you the decision.

                  Sadly as a boxing fan you come to realize that it isn’t a sport that’s played on a Even playing field and the fighter that gets the decision isn’t always the fighter that deserves it and more often it’s the fighter who brings in $ that is on the receiving end of these generous outcomes for some odd reason. This is no different and it’ll continue to be this way

                  Kind of pathetic you can’t even admit that Canelos drawing power is a reason he got the decisions but I guess being honest about it means the cheques would stop coming in.

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                  • #49
                    the underrated angle in a "retirement theory" might be his age....not just the number age....or even the wear and tear.....because at his age athletes can still perform well.....and by golovkins fans accounts he doesnt have the wear and tear alot of guys his age have had

                    but.....its what it takes to get there

                    take other sports for example...obviously baseball isnt overall as physically demanding...but take david ortiz for instance....his final year...he was 40...he hit .315 with 38 hrs and 130 rbi which is a GREAT year at any age.....its an MVP caliber year.....it suggested he can still hit with the best of them.....but he got tired of putting in the work it took to get there....the diet...staying lean....hours and hours and hours every week/day in the batting cage to stay sharp...the grind of the 162 game season and traveling

                    take a look at rob gronkowski....obviously a more physically demanding sport than baseball.....he still relatively young...but he has wear and tear on his body and has had many different injuries.....he could come back...but does he want to? the diet..the time in the weight room....the grueling hot training camp....the practices.....getting up early for treatments and meetings.....does he still have the desire? were gonna find out

                    the same might be true with golovkin....i think he fights again...but you dont know if this guy is thinking he doesnt wanna get up early and do the roadwork.....the gym sessions....the dieting......he might be over it...you saw floyd get burnout from it.....i think golovkin will fight again but you just never know whats going through some of these guys minds

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                      Keep earning your cheque Dunny

                      Why do you have all your Golovkin arguments / stats / pics saved ready to release and fire off at any moment? Like WTF , If you were so convinced Canelo actually deserved the win why have all these memes , lists and whatever else ready to go . You wouldn’t need all that because you’d know your guy won

                      Yes Golovkin tapped out he wasn’t dropped , stopped or quit , but yes he tapped out

                      I don’t think pointing out the reality of the situation is crying but I guess that’s all you have when you can’t explain or want to talk about how the judges scorecards aren’t indicative of the fights and the fighter who’s employer cuts you a cheque is the fighter who benefited from it

                      I never said they were paid off but it does seem they are influenced by keeping the cash cow winning for some reason or incompetent at their jobs because they scored a fight how 3% saw it

                      As far as Abel he knows his fighter was up against the cash cow and wouldn’t catch any breaks why b.itch over it .similar to when May fought PAC and Sr told Floyd henwas losing when he wasn’t but thought that Manny being the perceived good guy he’d get rounds thrown his way he didn’t deserve so you say it to try and get your fighter to attempt for them to push it and leave no doubt or any reason why they can’t give you the decision.

                      Sadly as a boxing fan you come to realize that it isn’t a sport that’s played on a Even playing field and the fighter that gets the decision isn’t always the fighter that deserves it and more often it’s the fighter who brings in $ that is on the receiving end of these generous outcomes for some odd reason. This is no different and it’ll continue to be this way

                      Kind of pathetic you can’t even admit that Canelos drawing power is a reason he got the decisions but I guess being honest about it means the cheques would stop coming in.
                      Is GGG own trainer earning a check too or has an agenda against GGG? HAHAHAHA

                      It's one thing to tell your fighter you are losing just to spark a fire in the heat of the battle even if you don't believe it. But that's not what happened Sanchez was in panic mode all fight then doubled down hours after the fight when he had no motive. And Sanchez himself admitted he didn't think GGG won the fight. Keep spinning trying to make excuses for why GGG refused to fight Mexican Style. Why GGG got walked down and his face broken. Why GGG refused to stand and talk to Max after the fight something he would of had no problem doing if he really thought he won but he ran because he knew what the first question was going to be. Why did you trainer tell you you were losing and why after begging and demanding Mexican Style fight did you retreat and refuse to fight Mexican Style. That's why he pulled a Broner and that's why he pulled a Me No Speaky Any English at the press conference. Me, hundreds of fighters, trainers, the judges and GGG own trainer are all involved in a massive conspiracy secretly collecting checks from Golden Boy to say GGG lost. LMAO





                      Like I said one day you will get out of the denial stage of grief and get to acceptance.

                      Last edited by bigdunny1; 02-15-2019, 05:55 PM.

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