How many NSB posters care if a fighter has been previously caught using PED's?

[jas]

Will be rooting for Jacobs

[Thuglife Nelo]

I'm going by the title of this thread

I gave the most informative answers in this thread. Does industry care that RJJ or Toney have been caught? Again, boxing fans don't know what advanced drug testing is or know that it didn't exist before 2010. Many posters think advanced drug testing programs going into a fight (like being randomly from the start of signage) that it isn't the same as when a boxer didn't do it and just peed in a cup after a fight.

[Curtis Harper]

I gave the most informative answers in this thread. Does industry care that RJJ or Toney have been caught? Again, boxing fans don't know what advanced drug testing is or know that it didn't exist before 2010. Many posters think advanced drug testing programs going into a fight (like being randomly from the start of signage) that it isn't the same as when a boxer didn't do it and just peed in a cup after a fight.

I like to keep things simple....Do they (roids/peds/???) work ? Not debating if they should or should not be allowed. That's a foolish debate.

Do they work ?

[4truth]

My friend, surely you're smarter than this. You must be new to the sport. If you think 365 is synonymous to "VADA testing" - which usually is contextualized to fighters agreeing (45-60 days before a fight), then you need to stay in your lane with the females you load in your profiles versus the ones ganged deep throat on mine.

An 10 hour flight guaranteed in air - direct flight - is not the same thing as a 2 hour domestic flight which is not guaranteed in air for 10 hours.

Take your time and ponder what was said about Abel, and thanks for ignoring Ryan Martin and Cuadras. Good job!

I know the difference. Golovkin has been doing 365 Vada as have all the wbc champs. For instance, Crawford does, Spence does not. Golovkin does and did, Canelo did not but does now.

[Thuglife Nelo]

I like to keep things simple....Do they (roids/peds/???) work ? Not debating if they should or should not be allowed. That's a foolish debate.

Do they work ?

You still don't get 365...

Again, almost ALL KNOWN athlete cases with HISTORICAL findings of "steroids/peds" was DURING competition cheating, including Olympians with medals revoked. If an athelete wins a medal or a boxer wins a fight and pisses hot in a post fight urine test, don't you assume it "worked?" Or were there stories that stated, "Well, the athlete PASSED clean during the months of competition and passed clean with a post fight test, but we decided to revoke their merit because of a trace amount 80 days away." As you can see, your question about performance has already been answered. Just think rationally with a premise.

Who questions, "does a brand new car work if the ignition isn't started?" lol

[Curtis Harper]

You still don't get 365...

Again, almost ALL KNOWN athlete cases with HISTORICAL findings of "steroids/peds" was DURING competition cheating, including Olympians with medals revoked. If an athelete wins a medal or a boxer wins a fight and pisses hot in a post fight urine test, don't you assume it "worked?" Or were there stories that stated, "Well, the athlete PASSED clean during the months of competition and passed clean with a post fight test, but we decided to revoke their merit because of a trace amount 80 days away." As you can see, your question about performance has already been answered. Just think rationally with a premise.

Who questions, "does a brand new car work if the ignition isn't started?" lol

The highlighted word gets me.

''Why do it if it doesn't work.'' isn't an answer. Not if we're going down the scientific ''PROOF'' road.

No matter, nothing will change in boxing because of threads like this. No sense in the stress.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Ahhh! The beautiful days when Advanced Drug Testing was but a dream even though steroids was rampant in American Sports as well as worldwide. The beautiful days of post fight urine tests.

Evander Holyfield (44-10-2, 29 KO’s)
Accomplishments: Managed to father at least 11 children despite suffering from hypo-gonadism (shrunken balls)
Drug of choice: Testosterone/Saizen (HGH)/Glukor (treatment for impotence)
Remarks: Federal documents say Holyfield received packages containing human growth hormones in 2004. The packages were addressed to an “Evan Fields,” but Holyfield’s PED usage could have possibly started in 1988 during his jump up to heavyweight. According to Dr. Margaret Goodman, Holyfield was questioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission about HGH usage following his 1994 loss to Michael Moorer. After the fight Holyfield encountered heart problems that could have been caused by growth hormone usage.

Roy Jones Jr. (54-8, 40 KO’s)
Accomplishments: Avoided any brain numbing knockouts through his first 50 professional fights
Drug of choice: Androstenedione
Remarks: Jones tested positive for PED’s after his 2000 win over Richard Hall. According to Jones, the over-the-counter product Ripped Fuel —which contains androstenedione– was responsible for his failed drug test. Androstenedione was on the IBF’s banned substance list.

James Toney (73-6-3, 44 KO’s)
Accomplishments: 4-division champion/Current IBA Heavyweight Champion
Drug of choice: Nandrolone/Boldenone/Stanazolol
Remarks: The number of world titles he has won is just as long as the number of steroids he has taken. Toney is one of the toughest SOBs to ever enter the ring and yet he failed two post-fight drug tests. Toney tested positive for steroids after winning the WBA heavyweight title from John Ruiz in 2005. And failed yet another drug test in 2007 following his victory against fellow steroid juicer Danny Batchelder. Despite using steroids, Toney’s pudgy physique remained the same.

Vitali Klitschko (42-2, 39 KO’s)
Accomplishments: Brother of unified heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko
Drug of choice: Steroids
Remarks: Thrown off the Ukrainian Olympic boxing team in 1996 after testing positive for a banned substance. Klitschko admitted in his autobiography that he used steroids to deal with a leg injury.

[Chuckguy]

Just wondering how many people care if top name fighters have been caught using PEDs.

Fury, Canelo, BJS, Ortiz, Whyte and even the likes of Vitali, RJR, Shane Mosley all still have a lot of fans.

But does anyone really care?

Just for the record, I do.

Plain and simple... NO!
Like I’ve said a thousand times before I think all the elite boxers are on something. Some get caught others don’t

[Thuglife Nelo]

The highlighted word gets me.

''Why do it if it doesn't work.'' isn't an answer. Not if we're going down the scientific ''PROOF'' road.

No matter, nothing will change in boxing because of threads like this. No sense in the stress.

You seem to be confused.

I have stated numerous times in this thread, comprehensively, that athletes having won medals or competitions does WORK, and their medals revoked or "stripped." lol

[Curtis Harper]

You seem to be confused.

I have stated numerous times in this thread, comprehensively, that athletes having won medals or competitions does WORK, and their medals revoked or "stripped." lol

Can you point me to the ones concerning only pro boxing ? If not, no worries.