How many NSB posters care if a fighter has been previously caught using PED's?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #11
    Well, if Jon 'Bones' Jones is any indicator, I'm more disappointed that more fighters hadn't found the massive loophole he found.

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    • SeGoodland
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      #12
      Originally posted by Bjl12
      The fact that you have Tyson Fury in your list shows you're a twat
      Good one, you sure showed me hiding behind your keyboard.

      Be gone.

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      • KingHippo
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        #13
        Nobody cares unless their favorite fighter or a fighter they hate is concerned. That's why the same f0ck$ who either don't care about or even support people like Ortiz, Povetkin and Fury, will turn around and cry about Canelo's trace amounts.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          Yes, I care. If it's a boxer I have always liked I am not suddenly going to dislike him but I would be disappointed in him. Some cases are worse or better than others. I have doubts that Saunders is a deliberate drug cheat and it's possible Canelo did eat tainted beef. I am not a ban them for life if they ever fail a test type of guy. Humans give these tests and humans make mistakes all the time. If a boxer is caught dead to rights then punish him within reason and let him continue his career and making his living. Everybody will be watching him and testing him from that point on. No need to take away possibly his only way to make a good living.

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          • todisday
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            #15
            They're all on steroids. As another posted referenced, Icarus is a good documentary to go by. You don't make it to the top level of any sport without cheating. The evidence is plain to see, too: Fighters succeeding at higher weight divisions, increased muscle mass all of a sudden, better performances after several wars. It's all right there in front of us.

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            • Ray*
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              #16
              I do but i also care more in terms of the level of the cheating. If you do what someone like Lamont Peterson or Mosley did then i can never respect you.

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #17
                Originally posted by 4truth
                I care but not necessarily forever. Canelo got caught for instance but now he tests 365 VADA. That he is doing that now means a lot more to me than fighters that might also be cheating but only test right before fights.
                This is a really good point that fans aren’t aware of, so we must all question their understanding for clean sport.

                Canelo didn’t have to do 365. Lara is doing 365 and yet he doesn’t have to either. Monroe Jr. isn’t 365 yet was part of Conte.

                Basically any fighter in one year making more than 100K+ imho, and whom would most likely have another fight within the same year and same purse or more, can afford the 15K it costs a year for 365. If people for years said advanced testing was “expensive” yet 365 ONLY costs 15K, then let’s assume normal VADA testing for fights costs 8k. So 15K is all inclusive for 365.

                Sounds like a good deal to me. If you’re a star making 200K a year which everyone takes supplements, then why not pay and not risk an adverse finding. Ward said he paid 15K for every camp to make sure he didn’t have trace levels of Contamination from supplements, yet he wasn’t 365. Why would award feel worried to pay? Because again, anything can happen.

                If Canelo had any insecurities about testing he wouldn’t even do 365 and continue regular VADA testing per fight. It wouldn’t cost, hurt him at all, so by him doing 365 is a huge plus. Therefore, if anybody has doubts about Canelo, then the su****ion is on VADA and their random accordance to do things, not the other way around.

                If there Top Rank or PBC fighters making 1-2million a purse while still paying 8K for VADA testing anyways, then why not just do 365? It’s not like they can’t afford it 15K. How do boxing fans not see this loophole for benefit of doubt?

                This is why anybody who isn’t 365 should be automatically suspect. The only kids or guys that get a pass, and whom are unfortunately prospects that are not making big money yet, would ideally start protecting themselves with screenings when they enter the big leagues. Amateur boxing doesn’t have press like the pros.

                The fact that 365 is so rarely done easily proves that all boxers take supplements and are prone to contamination, or can be easily seen as shady. There’s virtually no other way to see it if you want to view it the pragmatic way. If you’re not 365 and making 100k+ plus purses each fight, then when could easily assume they are doing something.
                Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 02-12-2019, 08:15 PM.

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                • Curtis Harper
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                  #18
                  I consider headbutts, biting, illegal wraps, hitting on the break or knockdown and clinching to be worse cases of cheating. I can't say a roid fight is any worse than an outright mismatch and the sport has no problems sanctioning them.

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                  • Bjl12
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SeGoodland
                    Good one, you sure showed me hiding behind your keyboard.

                    Be gone.
                    *******. A ped.

                    LOL

                    I'd crack your wannabe white ass irl too girl

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                    • chaosisme
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                      #20
                      They're all using some kind of performance enhancer at the high levels of every sport. Level the playing field.

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