How many NSB posters care if a fighter has been previously caught using PED's?

[Curtis Harper]

Sure. But to say a “roid fight” when comparing post fight urine tests versus the network days when there wasn’t advanced drug testing or executives not caring is a completely different comparison.

I read about guys who failed tests....They don't fight any differently than when they weren't popped. What's to get mad about ?

Nelo did better without his ''help'' and people wanted to crucify him.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Are you ignorant or just intentionally posting BS?
Golovkin has been enrolled for years

My friend, surely you're smarter than this. You must be new to the sport. If you think 365 is synonymous to "VADA testing" - which usually is contextualized to fighters agreeing (45-60 days before a fight), then you need to stay in your lane with the females you load in your profiles versus the ones ganged deep throat on mine.

An 10 hour flight guaranteed in air - direct flight - is not the same thing as a 2 hour domestic flight which is not guaranteed in air for 10 hours.

Take your time and ponder what was said about Abel, and thanks for ignoring Ryan Martin and Cuadras. Good job!

[Thuglife Nelo]

I read about guys who failed tests....They don't fight any differently than when they weren't popped. What's to get mad about ?

Nelo did better without his ''help'' and people wanted to crucify him.

No. Canelo is the first boxer at the highest level having a trace amount 80 days away from his fight. Give me any historical fight, or Olympic level, where an athlete was "crucified" for trace amounts so far out. When Olympic athletes get their medal stripped, you do realize these are POST fight results.

I have learned that many people don't know what "post" means and somehow forget about the tests towards the fight itself. In fact I bet there are naive fans who didn't know that Floyd and Pac were tests numerous times from 50 days out and POST. Again, the 80s and 90s no such testing existed, you just had to make sure you past the POST fight urine test. Why? Just like Olympians getting stripped, the idea is that you're juicing DURING Competition. Cyclists stories such as Contador or Armstrong, all REPORTS were DURING in competition cheating, not 80 days out.

This information you'll thank me in the future.

[Curtis Harper]

No. Canelo is the first boxer at the highest level having a trace amount 80 days away from his fight. Give me any historical fight, or Olympic level, where an athlete was "crucified" for trace amounts so far out. When Olympic athletes get their medal stripped, you do realize these are POST fight results.

I have learned that many people don't know what "post" means and somehow forget about the tests towards the fight itself. In fact I bet there are naive fans who didn't know that Floyd and Pac were tests numerous times from 50 days out and POST. Again, the 80s and 90s no such testing existed, you just had to make sure you past the POST fight urine test. Why? Just like Olympians getting stripped, the idea is that you're juicing DURING Competition. Cyclists stories such as Contador or Armstrong, all REPORTS were DURING in competition cheating, not 80 days out.

This information you'll thank me in the future.

In any event, I just don't see guys fighting any differently than when they're not on the stuff.

Which fight best represents a change in a fighter that was busted than the way that fighter fought when he wasn't ?

If you follow my question....

[Thuglife Nelo]

In any event, I just don't see guys fighting any differently than when they're not on the stuff.

Which fight best represents a change in a fighter that was busted than the way that fighter fought when he wasn't ?

If you follow my question....

I understand your point 100%.

But let's restructure your points and concerns. Again, I have stated that 80, 90s, 2000s testing was different than 2010+. As promoters and organizations wanted change in the sport, including negotiations, new stipulations had to breakthrough traditional testing methods. A lot was influenced by mainstream sports and the Olympics.

Advanced Drug Testing was always an exclusive technology and protocol for Olympians due to the nature of foreign govt. and politics. Domestic level sports in different countries had different priorities and regulations. Look at famous baseball players and steroids or American football. It's the same thing as PEDS worldwide in Rugby or footsy. It's always been that way. As years progressed, well, progression happened. Why do you think some fans hammer on Mike Tyson that he was juiced to the gills? You think if American mainstream sports allowed stars to do it that it somehow wouldn't sneak in boxing?

Therefore, that era is long gone when advanced drug testing came into light. Moreso, athletes that do 365 gain even more respect. This is a dark topic that industry doesn't like to cover.

[Curtis Harper]

I understand your point 100%.

But let's restructure your points and concerns. Again, I have stated that 80, 90s, 2000s testing was different than 2010+. As promoters and organizations wanted change in the sport, including negotiations, new stipulations had to breakthrough traditional testing methods. A lot was influenced by mainstream sports and the Olympics.

Advanced Drug Testing was always an exclusive technology and protocol for Olympians due to the nature of foreign govt. and politics. Domestic level sports in different countries had different priorities and regulations. Look at famous baseball players and steroids or American football. It's the same thing as PEDS worldwide in Rugby or footsy. It's always been that way. As years progressed, well, progression happened. Why do you think some fans hammer on Mike Tyson that he was juiced to the gills? You think if American mainstream sports allowed stars to do it that it somehow wouldn't sneak in boxing?

Therefore, that era is long gone when advanced drug testing came into light. Moreso, athletes that do 365 gain even more respect. This is a dark topic that industry doesn't like to cover.

Well, I can't tell from an eye test if a guy is 1000000% on the stuff (unless big muscles is the give away).

What should I look for in a fight to make sure no one is roided ?

[Thuglife Nelo]

What should I look for in a fight to make sure no one is roided ?

Aside from the sarcasm, do know that amphetamine use in sports or warriorship goes way back to ancient times. ******* was a lovely substance in the start of the 1900s (even though its been around way longer), and yet when it was outlawed for some time, people could still acquire it since import securities were different than today. "Herbal" medicines and mixtures gave many martial arts an advantage to compete, this is our human history, especially going into battle. As much as Toradol is a joke, which it isnt, numbing pain helps, and such measures are nothing new to sports or historical combat, especially war.

[Curtis Harper]

Aside from sarcasm which I'll answer in a sec., do know that amphetamine use in sports or warriorship goes way back. ******* was a lovely substance in the start of the 1900s and yet when it was outlawed for some time, people could still acquire it since back then import securities were different anyways. "Herbal" medicines and mixtures gave many martial arts an advantage to compete, this is our human history, especially going into ball. As much as Toradol would is a joke, which it isnt, numbing pain helps, and such measures are nothing new to sports or historical combat, especially war.

Lets limit this to the sport of professional boxing....Unless you don't want to

I'm only ''concerned'' with roids in pro boxing.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Lets limit this to the sport of professional boxing....Unless you don't want to

I'm only ''concerned'' with roids in pro boxing.

Again, you need to be more specific. I'll help you out. If Andrew Rozier has helped a narrative to say that the Charlo brothers do coke, then how do you explain a random and failed visit to collect a sample? Boxing is corrupt. There have been Champions who were STRIPPED per ******* use, it's rather practical to miss a beat when you are required to inform your whereabouts. Do know that there are many spies in the business, they know when to ease drop when intoxication probabilities are at a high.

Or were you talking about "anabolic steroids?" Realize I just give you a story revolving random testing.

[Curtis Harper]

Again, you need to be more specific. I'll help you out. If Andrew Rozier has helped a narrative to say that the Charlo brothers do coke, then how do you explain a random and failed visit to collect a sample? Boxing is corrupt. There have been Champions who were STRIPPED per ******* use, it's rather practical to miss a beat when you are required to inform your whereabouts. Do know that there are many spies in the business, they know when to ease drop when intoxication probabilities are at a high.

Or were you talking about "anabolic steroids?" Realize I just give you a story revolving random testing.

I'm going by the title of this thread