Comments Thread For: Dillian Whyte, Eddie Hearn Trade Words Over Joshua Deal Fallout

[kafkod]

So it seems Al's also got it right.I'm sure this is what your trying to say....and I agree. Lennox and Al are completely spot on , no question .Wilder v Fury 2 is happening PPV coast to coast ,word wide huge event.I flew over for the Lomo fight and can tell you the Americans can't get enough of Fury .Our lad hasn't got a fight booked and looks like the Wembley show is to be cancelled.If you see this as good and wish to continue defending this nonsense then fill ya boots. The 'accountants' have completely misread this whole situation and Joshua has lost a lot of money and respect because of it . That is another fact!

I'm very pleased indeed that Fury is becoming popular in the States and I hope he'll become a real star by beating Wilder and picking up the WBC title.

But that would have no impact at all on AJ's popularity and will mean more money for both of them when they fight each other.

In the real world, real boxing fans are not like the fanboys who post here. They won't start hating one guy and boycotting his fights just because they start to like somebody else.

This thread is about Dillian Whyte turning down an offer to fight AJ. From what I've read the offer he's complaining about is $6/$7million.

That's a great offer for a voluntary defence against a challenger AJ already has a ko win against. Imo, most unbiased fans will see this as Dillian pricing himself out of a fantastic opportunity, rather than AJ lowballing him.

[Noelanthony]

Thank you for posting this, I had not seen it. I was responding to the article in this thread. Quoted "Of course we were serious about the fight. We wouldn't waste everyone's time with three different offers, we don't do it for fun. AJ controls the finances and the offers came from AJ. As WBO mandatory challenger Dillian was due 20 percent and the final offer was considerably more than that," Hearn told Davies."


Eddie is 100% correct in the interview you posted. Usyk could force everyones hand and demand an automatic title shot. It's a rule that I love. Whyte is ranked #1 if he does or doesn't do that, but being ranked #1 is just a ranking. It's not being #1 contender. The WBO would call a final eliminator. It's why I kept saying that Whyte was being lied to by Hearn when he was saying that he was #1 contender for the WBC. He was/is ranked #1 but he didn't fight in the eliminator. It's also the reason that I said that Hearn has had a habit of lying about this, because he also was saying that the winner of Vargas/Dulorme became the #1 contender for the WBC Welterweight title, which was untrue.

Fair enough ..

[Noelanthony]

Nice piece my friend! Why is it OK when you point out all these things, but you're so sensitive when others point out the exact same things? AJ is very vulnerable to being KO'd by Wilder, and vice versa!

I’m never sensitive. When Wilderlite talk about outcomes of fights I never challenge them as anything can happen in a fight especially with 2 big punchers . I just think my guy has your guys number that’s all. You see it different which is cool. My gripe is when Wilderlites like to throw accusations and talk resumes and I just feel it’s my job to remind them of their place. It’s nothing personal

[Oshio]

I would rather see Joshua-Miller than Whyte. I have grown to like Whyte but I think he should fight other heavies first, own a belt, before the Joshua rematch. Luis Ortiz is there for the take, Usyk, Breazeale, Fury or Wilder after their rematch etc. His stock will rise if he comes out of those.

[Bonduu]

The point of the article is that Joshua is becoming diminished by the presence of the Wilder vs. Fury saga! That was before the first fight, and now even more by the second fight! Joshua played his "I don't need the U.S." card, and it backfired. Now that Fury did it, and is stealing his shine, he's, more than likely, going to wind up coming anyway, although for a lesser opponent, and a much lesser prize! Hindsight is 20/20!

Lolsss some ignoramus here again, BS comment. Champs rep don’t get dampened you dumb cvnt, AJ can as well retire been undefeated and an emeritus champ and only come back for a big fight and still fill out any stadium, if Ward, Mayweathee and the likes can come back and fight and still make multiple millions why can AJ? You forgot the Wilder-Fury fight was rode on the back of AJ popularity, how do you fan girls think? If I was an employee I wouldn’t give you a job to watch my pet!

[davefromvancouv]

Kevin Iole
Yahoo Sports
November 26, 2018:

Ali fought 14 fights against eight men who are enshrined in the International Boxing Hall of Fame, going 11-3 with eight knockouts. He became a legend by fighting the legends and never letting a bout marinate. There will never be another Ali, but for the current trio of champions to garner the kind of recognition and respect that the fighters in Ali’s era had, they’ll have to do as Ali did and fight the best without hesitation.

The story of the heavyweight division in the last two years can’t be told with the unending “Will they or won’t they” saga that followed Wilder and Joshua. After both won fights in March, the expectation was that they’d fight each other.

Wilder essentially gave up everything but the clothes on his back in a bid to make the fight, and it still wasn’t good enough for Joshua.

Now, this isn’t to say that Joshua is afraid or that he isn’t the best fighter of the three. That is very much up in the air.

But consider this: At the first real opportunity Wilder had to fight Joshua, he offered Joshua the first $50 million and then a 50-50 split of all revenue after. Basically, Wilder was showing by his actions that he wanted to fight. He wasn’t worried about the venue or the referee or the percentage. Joshua said he was the best heavyweight in the world. Wilder was willing to prove it.

When it became obvious that Joshua wasn’t going to fight Wilder in 2018, Wilder immediately jumped into negotiations with Fury, the lineal champion who lost the belts that Joshua now holds not in the ring but because he had mental health issues that kept him out of the ring for more than two full years.

Joshua is a massive star in the U.K., and he’s had significant wins over Wladimir Klitschko, Joseph Parker and Alexander Povetkin. But Joshua isn’t widely known in the U.S., largely because he hasn’t fought here but also because he hasn’t faced the two men that matter most: Wilder and Fury.

The winner of the Wilder-Fury fight will gain more leverage in talks for a fight with Joshua in 2019. If Wilder beats Fury, he not only has the WBC belt, but he’ll become the lineal champion, meaning he’s the man who beat the man. He will also have introduced himself to the rabid British fan base by defeating one of its heroes.

Fury is already hugely popular in the U.K. and would simply enhance his position by besting Wilder in the U.S....

Wilder and Fury are fighting each other because that’s what fighters do. Joshua is missing an opportunity by not being there on Saturday, though he missed an opportunity long ago by not putting his name on a contract to fight Wilder.

No matter how Wilder-Fury plays out, Anthony Joshua comes out of it at least somewhat diminished.

It’s long past time that he looks at the example that Ali, Frazier and Foreman set decades ago.

He needs to get himself into the mix with Wilder and Fury as soon as possible, or he’ll be viewed as just another guy who wouldn’t challenge himself when it mattered most.

https://sports.yahoo.com/will-anthon...194211957.html

Great flashback article, thanks for sharing. The best fighter to prepare Joshua for the winner of Wilder-Fury is Luis Ortiz. Ortiz has already stated that he will take whatever is offered for a chance to fight Joshua. So Hearn and Joshua can keep all the money they want, have the fight wherever they want and get Joshua primed and ready for the undisputed fight. Plus, Joshua should be ringside at the Wilder-Fury rematch to hype his fight with the winner.

[Noelanthony]

I personally don’t think Whyte is a very good fighter. But he seems sharp outside the ring. I suspect he’s done with Hearn.

If he was sharp he should go and fight Fat belly Miller in Brooklyn and build his profile in the states. If he beats Miller or Adam K then he can start commanding a bigger percentage. He knows he gets knocked out by Wilder. He is the spare tyre that is surplus to requirements. He is welcome to leave.

Meanwhile I feel AJ should just fight Ortiz on April 13th and make an example out of him. Obviously would need to stack the card with competitive fights because Ortiz goes sleep before the 5th round.

Maybe throw Marsellos Wilder on the card for some light entertainment. Put him up against a middleweight to ensure he doesn’t get knocked out. Maybe allow him a head guard out of respect for his older brother

[Noelanthony]

I'm very pleased indeed that Fury is becoming popular in the States and I hope he'll become a real star by beating Wilder and picking up the WBC title.

But that would have no impact at all on AJ's popularity and will mean more money for both of them when they fight each other.

In the real world, real boxing fans are not like the fanboys who post here. They won't start hating one guy and boycotting his fights just because they start to like somebody else.

This thread is about Dillian Whyte turning down an offer to fight AJ. From what I've read the offer he's complaining about is $6/$7million.

That's a great offer for a voluntary defence against a challenger AJ already has a ko win against. Imo, most unbiased fans will see this as Dillian pricing himself out of a fantastic opportunity, rather than AJ lowballing him.

Well said...

[Bronx2245]

Lolsss some ignoramus here again, BS comment. Champs rep don’t get dampened you dumb cvnt, AJ can as well retire been undefeated and an emeritus champ and only come back for a big fight and still fill out any stadium, if Ward, Mayweathee and the likes can come back and fight and still make multiple millions why can AJ? You forgot the Wilder-Fury fight was rode on the back of AJ popularity, how do you fan girls think? If I was an employee I wouldn’t give you a job to watch my pet!

Champs' reputations can be dampened when you're not fighting the best competition! Ask Terence Crawford! Ask GGG! Who had more belts, GGG or Canelo? Wilder vs. Fury was sold on Fury! It was Fury who beat Wlad, and vacated his title, and then came back! That was the storyline! Lastly, employees don't hire people, only employers! You would know that, if you weren't unemployed!

[Bronx2245]

Great flashback article, thanks for sharing. The best fighter to prepare Joshua for the winner of Wilder-Fury is Luis Ortiz. Ortiz has already stated that he will take whatever is offered for a chance to fight Joshua. So Hearn and Joshua can keep all the money they want, have the fight wherever they want and get Joshua primed and ready for the undisputed fight. Plus, Joshua should be ringside at the Wilder-Fury rematch to hype his fight with the winner.

I actually think fighting Miller is Joshua's best bet! He fights in the U.S., and at MSG, and he fights someone who should be able to sell a fight, and who shouldn't demand much of the purse! If he was fighting Ortiz before Wilder KO'd him, that would've been different! At this point, Ortiz is a better opponent for Dillian Whyte than Anthony Joshua!