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  • #91
    Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
    Wait, so now AJ controls the money and says how much guys are gonna get? Hmm
    I saw that too. Hearn always be moving them goal posts.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
      I don't defend the articles, I just post them! It's the author's job to defend his work, not me! Besides, what makes you an authority? Anyway, here, have another:

      Why Anthony Joshua Is The Odd Man Out In The Heavyweight Division Right Now
      Peter Khan
      Forbes
      January 25, 2019:

      Former heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis hit the nail on the head recently when talking about where Anthony Joshua stands in the heavyweight division. In a recent interview, Lewis said, "Now that Wilder and Fury are taking part in a likely rematch, Joshua is forced to become the odd man out until the smoke clears."

      "With Wilder Fury 2 happening, Eddie (Hearn) is now scrambling for a viable opponent for Joshua. If Joshua handles his business in April, the winner of Wilder Fury 2 should take on Joshua for the undisputed title. If that doesn’t happen, then we know that it’s just about milking the British fans for as much money as possible, instead of bringing the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world back home to them for the second time in their lifetime. Just that simple," Lewis said.

      The leverage and power in the heavyweight division shifted on December 1, 2018, when Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury fought to an exciting draw acquiring over 350,000 pay-per-view buys along the way. Not only was new life breathed into the heavyweight division, but Anthony Joshua's relevance was also downgraded a few notches overnight. The truth of the matter is that it's starting to feel like Joshua simply has no desire to fight Wilder or Fury. At least not in the short term.

      Eddie Hearn, Joshua's promoter and Joshua have done a great job in building Joshua's brand and revitalizing the British boxing scene. There's no denying that. The ability to put 90,000 fans in Wembley Stadium on more than one occasion and over 78,000 fans in Cardiff is something that no heavyweight champion in the United States has ever been able to do in modern time and is quite remarkable. But it's time to face the facts. In order for Joshua to truly become the undisputed superstar that he already thinks he is and very well might be, he must come to the United States and fight Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury. It's that simple. The championship belts matter, but at the same time, they don't matter. Right now, the argument can be made that after his performance on December 1, Tyson Fury is the people's champ. What happened to the April 13 date at Wembley? We're heading into February and there is still yet to be a formal announcement as to who Joshua will be fighting. Furthermore, it's insulting to boxing fans that Joshua could be entertaining a Dillian Whyte rematch. No disrespect to Whyte who is coming off an impressive knockout victory over Derek Chisora, but we've already seen that movie. We know the ending.

      Look, Joshua is a very good heavyweight champion, but he hasn't earned "great" status yet. He's won an Olympic Gold medal in 2012 and he has beaten everyone put in front of him in his professional career including an aged Wladimir Klitschko, Alexander Povetkin and an overrated Joseph Parker. No one else currently on his resume is going to cement his legacy as being great. He needs that career-defining fight and come October, Joshua turns 30 years old. It's now or never.

      For all of the criticism that Wilder has taken over the years, he has never backed down from anyone. He's methodically removed all of the pieces off of the chess board in the past year to corner Joshua into a checkmate position. Wilder fought both Luis Ortiz and Tyson Fury leaving no other options for Joshua. While I'm not privileged to negotiations, I did recently spend time with Wilder and manager Shelly Finkel in Wilder's suite at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. I looked right into Wilder's eyes and said, "Look, I don't know your business for 2019 or whether or not you're going to fight Joshua or Fury, but it's going to be a defining year for you." He simply looked at me and said, "Why not both?" My take away from that is that Wilder will fight anyone ready to make a deal and anywhere they want to fight. Once again, it's my own opinion, but it feels to me like Joshua has priced himself out of a Wilder fight happening simply to avoid the fight.

      In order for Joshua to be great, he needs to take risks. Greatness is earned by taking chances. That's something he should have learned after watching Wilder vs. Fury. There were no losers in that fight. Boxing was the winner that evening. Until Joshua fights Wilder or Fury, anything else is going to be a letdown.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterka.../#1bc6b88371b9
      This is fact after fact , I can't wait to see how quickly it gets twisted!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by thack View Post
        This is fact after fact , I can't wait to see how quickly it gets twisted!
        Wilder never backed down from anyone? Apart from Klitschko, Povetkin, Whyte, Joshua. Fact doe.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
          Wilder never backed down from anyone? Apart from Klitschko, Povetkin, Whyte, Joshua. Fact doe.
          Here we go , it's like trying to teach them English.This one is obviously either sleeping with The swerver, Eddie or the old man ?
          He gets very sensitive when anything negative is said about his hero and ends up making a complete fool of himself .So shall we go with your ******ity and at least say Wilder ran from ....say Joshua or didn't want to fight Whyte for very small amounts compared to where he is one fight in. Your observations are almost child like .....grow up kid or phone a friend! (if you have one).

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          • #95
            Originally posted by thack View Post
            Here we go , it's like trying to teach them English.This one is obviously either sleeping with The swerver, Eddie or the old man ?
            He gets very sensitive when anything negative is said about his hero and ends up making a complete fool of himself .So shall we go with your ******ity and at least say Wilder ran from ....say Joshua or didn't want to fight Whyte for very small amounts compared to where he is one fight in. Your observations are almost child like .....grow up kid or phone a friend! (if you have one).
            Wilder avoided Klitschko
            Ran as soon as he could from Povetkin
            Took far less money to fight Stiverne instead of more for Whyte
            Took less to fight Fury than he would have made to fight Joshua


            Never backed down doe........

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            • #96
              Has anyone heard the leaked phone recording where Joshua says that it looks like he's going to the states in June because people over there don't want to fight.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
                Wait, so now AJ controls the money and says how much guys are gonna get? Hmm
                Originally posted by McNulty View Post
                I saw that too. Hearn always be moving them goal posts.
                AJ has his own promotion company now and his own team of advisors independant of Hearn. He co-promotes the shows he headlines. He consults with Hearn on stuff like money splits, but the final say on the money for AJ's fights is AJ's, not Hearn's.

                Dillian Whyte has said in at least 2 interviews that AJ, not Hearn, is putting a limit on the offers he's recieved.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  Wilder avoided Klitschko
                  Ran as soon as he could from Povetkin
                  Took far less money to fight Stiverne instead of more for Whyte
                  Took less to fight Fury than he would have made to fight Joshua


                  Never backed down doe........
                  Did some one drop you as a baby?

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by thack View Post
                    This is fact after fact , I can't wait to see how quickly it gets twisted!
                    Here's another fact for you: Lennox Lewis works for Al Haymon.

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                    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      Here's another fact for you: Lennox Lewis works for Al Haymon.
                      So it seems Al's also got it right.I'm sure this is what your trying to say....and I agree. Lennox and Al are completely spot on , no question .Wilder v Fury 2 is happening PPV coast to coast ,word wide huge event.I flew over for the Lomo fight and can tell you the Americans can't get enough of Fury .Our lad hasn't got a fight booked and looks like the Wembley show is to be cancelled.If you see this as good and wish to continue defending this nonsense then fill ya boots. The 'accountants' have completely misread this whole situation and Joshua has lost a lot of money and respect because of it . That is another fact!

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