Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia: Eventually, I'll Have To Get Credit I Deserve

[JonDP]

Did you even see who lipinets fought for that title Crawford relinquished? Did you see how he performed in that fight? I get that he went upside Garcia's head and mentally you need to justify that but Lipinets performances pre and post Garcia show the level of fighter he is.

Lipinets is solid and Garcia dominated him period. took the ibf title. If Lipinets had troubled Garcia then you’d be on to something

[Mister Wolf]

Lipinets is solid and Garcia dominated him period. took the ibf title. If Lipinets had troubled Garcia then you’d be on to something

Lipinets troubled Garcia so much he ran back down to 135 stating he was at a disadvantage at 140. If he struggled like that with Lipinets then I have Prograis or Taylor beating him. Of course we will never see that because he is a cherry picker. After he gets steamrolled by Spence you will be one of the first people on here saying he was at a size disadvantage that's why he loss.

[JonDP]

Lipinets troubled Garcia so much he ran back down to 135 stating he was at a disadvantage at 140. If he struggled like that with Lipinets then I have Prograis or Taylor beating him. Of course we will never see that because he is a cherry picker. After he gets steamrolled by Spence you will be one of the first people on here saying he was at a size disadvantage that's why he loss.

Now you’re just making **** up

[Mister Wolf]

Now you’re just making **** up

https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-garcia-im-more-disadvantage-140--130212

[markther]

You know P4P doesn’t mean fight all the best guys two divisions over right? By that same token Crawford’s resume is not impressive at all on paper, so then for him to be a legit p4p he has to beat Charlo, Jacobs and Canelo

The actual boxing definition of P4P and what it actually means is how good a boxer is based on their overall skill, not their weight class. And a boxer will be judged based on their record, “quality and level of competition” and how many wins have come by knockout.

So my entire post is based on evaluating the best fights available IF Garcia beats Spence who is in the same division as the other fighters I mentioned. IF Garcia wins, why would he go back down to the lower weight classes again. With the exception of Lomo, who would pay him more and be better than fights with Danny Garcia, Porter, and Thurman? And the way Garcia has bulked up with muscle for the Spence fight, he isn’t moving back down win or lose anyway. He could damage his career the same way Roy Jones Jr did when he bulked up to take on John Ruiz at HW and he only moved back down to LHW.

Crawford is already a legit P4P. And he is, based on the definition above. Do you watch boxing? One criteria is based on record. His record is 34-0 with 25 KO/TKOS.

Another criteria is based on knockouts. Crawford has a 74% stoppage percentage which is up there with the guys you mentioned, Charlo (75%), Jacobs (78%), and Canelo (65%).

We can look at his quality of opposition. He beat Yuriorkis Gamboa when he was undefeated. He beat Viktor Postol when he was undefeated. He beat Julius Indongo when he was undefeated. He beat Jeff Horn when he was undefeated. And he beat Jose Benavidez Jr when he was undefeated. And he has wins against Beltran, Diaz, Lundy, Prescott, & Burns.

And another criteria is based on judging their overall technical and boxing skill. Who in boxing has more overall skill than Crawford except for maybe Lomo.

So Crawford is a legit P4P and most experts have him rated up there. YOU ARE NOT A BOXING EXPERT.

[JonDP]

https://www.boxingscene.com/mikey-ga...ge-140--130212

Ok so the headline matches your comment but it’s a stretch to say Lipinets troubled him and so he ran from the division. Not a specific mention of the Lipinets fight, which he won handily

[Shape up]

Mikey Garcia doesn't deserve all the hate he gets. Fck all of you top rank shills, Mikey Garcia is the truth!!

and your his b1tch

[BoxingIsGreat]

You hoping Mikey ends up in a coma is so disrespectful. I hope you don’t have kids

Good post. Green K.

[jjsmyth87]

Beat Prograis or Josh Taylor at 140 and I will give you plenty of credit. You can even fight Loma at 135. Cashing out vs Spence with a built in excuse for your loss doesn't impress me.

Yea beating the most overrated c level paper champions you could possibly pick and being favored to win every fight gives you no credibility whatsoever. I personally think Mikeys going to pull out of the Spence fight with a training injury seeing as how he's avoided any elite competition his whole career. Then he can say " I jumped up 2 weight divisions to fight the best at 147" without actually having to fight him. If he actually fights him I'd still be very surprised

[Mister Wolf]

Ok so the headline matches your comment but it’s a stretch to say Lipinets troubled him and so he ran from the division. Not a specific mention of the Lipinets fight, which he won handily

He only had 2 fights at 140 Jon use your critical thinking. Its not whether he won the fight its the damage he took doing so. LOOK:

Now imagine someone with more skill and power landing on him like that(Crawford, Spence, Prograis, Taylor) if a face first brawler like Lipinets can. Listen and learn.