Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia: Eventually, I'll Have To Get Credit I Deserve

[JonDP]

Mikey Garcia’s competition on his quest to becoming a four division champion:

- 35 year old Orlando Salido, already had 11 losses. Most recently from Yuriorkis Gamboa

- 30 year old Roman Martínez, already lost to Ricky Burns. Got KO’d (and retired) by Lomachenko four fights later

- 34 year old Dejan Zlatican, won a vacant belt and had no title defenses. Got KO’d by Roberto Ramirez two fights later

- 29 year old Sergey Lipinets, won a vacant belt and had no title defenses. Got outboxed by Erick Bone his next fight but got saved by the judges

- 26 year old Robert Easter Jr, who was outboxed by Javier Fortuna earlier in the year but got saved by the judges. He also arguably lost against Richard Commey as well.

Mikey Garcia is one of the worst four division champions in boxing history, he has faced ZERO elite opponents and has cherry picked paper champions to become one. Back in his Top Rank days, He was lined up to fight Manny Pacquiao, Terence Crawford and Vasyl Lomachenko but he ducked them all to fight bums!

C’mon man, scrolling through boxrec is not the whole picture by any stretch. There’s such a thing as current form and Garcia beat them at or close to their peaks, only to have Lomachenko build his career off of his scraps. Martinez was a solid champ, Salido coming off of beating loma, Easter an avoided top dog at 135.

[JonDP]

I saw few posts here that agree with. Mikey does get credit just by being on the P4P list now. Every fighter isn’t recognized like that. And he has some very nice wins on his resume. I just think a win against Spence and maybe another win say like Danny Garcia or Porter or Thurman, he moves near the top of the P4P list in everyone’s minds. I didn’t mention Crawford, because I think Bud beats him with his quickness, agility, and power, LOL!!!

You know P4P doesn’t mean fight all the best guys two divisions over right? By that same token Crawford’s resume is not impressive at all on paper, so then for him to be a legit p4p he has to beat Charlo, Jacobs and Canelo

[JonDP]

C’mon man, scrolling through boxrec is not the whole picture by any stretch. There’s such a thing as current form and Garcia beat them at or close to their peaks, only to have Lomachenko build his career off of his scraps. Martinez was a solid champ, Salido coming off of beating loma, Easter an avoided top dog at 135.

My bad, he beat Salido BEFORE Salido beat Lomachenko

[daggum]

give the man credit for beating liponets damn it!

[daggum]

C’mon man, scrolling through boxrec is not the whole picture by any stretch. There’s such a thing as current form and Garcia beat them at or close to their peaks, only to have Lomachenko build his career off of his scraps. Martinez was a solid champ, Salido coming off of beating loma, Easter an avoided top dog at 135.

beat who in their peaks though? martinez and salido? hmm ok thats like saying floyd beat baldomir in his peak well done sir! and yeah loma going for scraps like undefeated rigo, undefeated walters, undefeated russel jr, and linares who hadn't lost in 6 years. easter an avoided top dog lmao. who avoided him and he was no top dog. he got a gift decision against fortuna the fight before.

[Mister Wolf]

C’mon man, scrolling through boxrec is not the whole picture by any stretch. There’s such a thing as current form and Garcia beat them at or close to their peaks, only to have Lomachenko build his career off of his scraps. Martinez was a solid champ, Salido coming off of beating loma, Easter an avoided top dog at 135.

Most of these fighters were never good in the first place. Is it hard to understand that Broner made his name in the sport being a weight bully at 130. He hasn't beaten a single fighter of merit since jumping to 140/147. Sergei Lipinets is a never was. A tough guy journeyman with little skill and average power.

[JonDP]

beat who in their peaks though? martinez and salido? hmm ok thats like saying floyd beat baldomir in his peak well done sir! and yeah loma going for scraps like undefeated rigo, undefeated walters, undefeated russel jr, and linares who hadn't lost in 6 years. easter an avoided top dog lmao. who avoided him and he was no top dog. he got a gift decision against fortuna the fight before.

You started an argument and completely run away from it, are you 12? Why exactly were Martinez and Salido not in top form? Just you saying something like Easter not being avoided doesn’t make it so. Because of his height, reach and skill he was absolutely avoided.

[JonDP]

Most of these fighters were never good in the first place. Is it hard to understand that Broner made his name in the sport being a weight bully at 130. He hasn't beaten a single fighter of merit since jumping to 140/147. Sergei Lipinets is a never was. A tough guy journeyman with little skill and average power.

The same can be said about most current p4p fighter’s resume. Other than Brook which other great fighters did Spence beat? Crawford? They’re p4p because they dominate each opponent and Garcia has certainly done that.
Lipinets is definitely a good fighter, he’s on the comeback trail having beat bone and facing Peterson next. He had a world title and as much as you would like to demerit that not every fighter can accomplish it.

[Mister Wolf]

The same can be said about most current p4p fighter’s resume. Other than Brook which other great fighters did Spence beat? Crawford? They’re p4p because they dominate each opponent and Garcia has certainly done that.
Lipinets is definitely a good fighter, he’s on the comeback trail having beat bone and facing Peterson next. He had a world title and as much as you would like to demerit that not every fighter can accomplish it.

Did you even see who lipinets fought for that title Crawford relinquished? Did you see how he performed in that fight? I get that he went upside Garcia's head and mentally you need to justify that but Lipinets performances pre and post Garcia show the level of fighter he is.

[YOU WILL LOSE]

yeah,,

by choosing a fight where the public is forced to give half the "credit" beforehand for "daring to be great"

whenn anytime over the past decade this **** could have fought a real guy it would have been him daring to great too!!