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  • Shape up
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    #81
    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
    Pound for pound is utter bullsht.

    There is no way to prove who is a better p4p fighter between Inoue, Mikey, Spence, Canelo, usyk, a prime Fury....

    You can only have one best per division.

    And there are divisions for a reason.
    So even if let's say Mikey lose to Spence, it doesn't mean Spence is better p4p, yet you will have all the p4p ranking idiots put Spence over Mikey...
    Exactly, it's fantasy

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    • markther
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      #82
      Originally posted by JonDelPrado
      Basically you are defending Crawford’s p4p status because he beat a lot of undefeated fighters, some of them champs. Not arguing there. But Garcia has essentially done the same, yet in your comment you were crapping on Garcia’s p4p standing and saying he needs to beat more ww’s. That’s dumb and that’s why I came down hard on your a$$

      So now we know you have trouble reading and comprehending. Go back and read my original post. I made the point that Garcia needs to stay at Welterweight and challlenge Porter, Thurman, and Danny Garcia IF he beats Spence, IF HE BEATS SPENCE TO MOVE UP HIGHER IN THE P4P rankings. Thats comnon sense. Go pick a fight with someone with the same IQ Dummy😂😂😂

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        #83
        Originally posted by markther
        So now we know you have trouble reading and comprehending. Go back and read my original post. I made the point that Garcia needs to stay at Welterweight and challlenge Porter, Thurman, and Danny Garcia IF he beats Spence, IF HE BEATS SPENCE TO MOVE UP HIGHER IN THE P4P rankings. Thats comnon sense. Go pick a fight with someone with the same IQ Dummy😂😂😂
        Ok let me get this straight, after beating monster ww p4p top 10 Spence, coming from two divisions lower, Garcia still needs to stay at ww and challenge Porter, Thurman and Danny Garcia if he wants to move up the p4p list? And you want to talk about IQ?

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        • markther
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          #84
          Originally posted by JonDelPrado
          Ok let me get this straight, after beating monster ww p4p top 10 Spence, coming from two divisions lower, Garcia still needs to stay at ww and challenge Porter, Thurman and Danny Garcia if he wants to move up the p4p list? And you want to talk about IQ?
          Mikey Garcia is already ahead of Spence in the P4P rankings as of today. This is from Sports Illustrated below. The only difference with ESPN is they have Crawford 2, Avarez 3, GGG 4, Mikey 5, & Spence 6. Again, after beating Spence, Garcia needs a few more big fights to be the top P4P fighter. Who on either list is Mikey moving past just with a victory over Spence. I would say GGG & maybe USYK. Not moving him past Crawford until he beats him.

          And I am strictly going off what Mikey Garcia said himself. He wants to be considered the best fighter of his generation. You can’t possibly think he moves past Lomo & Alvarez....

          1. VASYL LOMACHENKO
          2. SAUL 'CANELO' ALVAREZ
          3. TERENCE CRAWFORD
          4. OLEKSANDR USYK
          5. GENNADY GOLOVKIN
          6. MIKEY GARCIA
          7. ERROL SPENCE JR.
          8. SRISAKET SOR RUNGVISAI
          9. NAOYA INOUE
          10. LEO SANTA CRUZ

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            #85
            So who are all these people that don't give Mikey credit, I'm not aware of Mikey getting the "hate on his resume" treatment. To this day there are those dedicated to scrutinizing Floyd's resume, I highly doubt Mikey has a hater base that serious.

            I think Mikey is motivated by age and money. At 31 his career is more than half way over and he has yet to be that PPV star or Canelo level attraction. That in my opinion is what he is after, he views Spence as the best way of achieving that. May have bitten off more than he can chew though, Spence is not Adrien Broner.
            Last edited by Code Red; 01-12-2019, 01:38 PM.

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              #86
              Originally posted by BillyBoxing
              Pound for pound is utter bullsht.

              There is no way to prove who is a better p4p fighter between Inoue, Mikey, Spence, Canelo, usyk, a prime Fury....

              You can only have one best per division.

              And there are divisions for a reason.
              So even if let's say Mikey lose to Spence, it doesn't mean Spence is better p4p, yet you will have all the p4p ranking idiots put Spence over Mikey...
              And why not, if Spence lands in the top 3 P4P and Mikey is not, then Spence ranks higher than Mikey. You sound like that's unfathomable or something...

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                #87
                Originally posted by wrecksracer
                It's probably what made him a top 3 ATG Middleweight. I've read hilarious interviews with him where he couldn't believe his opponents had the audacity to think they could beat him. Headcase? Probably. It did take him years to even get a shot at the title, though.
                He was also a handful for the promoters which impedes you a lot in this sport. Marvin was a very unique talent but man oh man if he had been able to get over his insecurities as an athlete/man he would've easily been larger than life in the sport.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by turnedup
                  He was also a handful for the promoters which impedes you a lot in this sport. Marvin was a very unique talent but man oh man if he had been able to get over his insecurities as an athlete/man he would've easily been larger than life in the sport.
                  Yeah, having grown up in that era, he is larger that life to me lol. That Hearns fight was crazy. I lived in Detroit at that time, and I thought Hearns was going to win lol

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by wrecksracer
                    Yeah, having grown up in that era, he is larger that life to me lol. That Hearns fight was crazy. I lived in Detroit at that time, and I thought Hearns was going to win lol
                    I think those guys hit each other with more full power punches than I have ever seen any two fighters exchange. That was a firefight for damn sure.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by markther
                      Mikey Garcia is already ahead of Spence in the P4P rankings as of today. This is from Sports Illustrated below. The only difference with ESPN is they have Crawford 2, Avarez 3, GGG 4, Mikey 5, & Spence 6. Again, after beating Spence, Garcia needs a few more big fights to be the top P4P fighter. Who on either list is Mikey moving past just with a victory over Spence. I would say GGG & maybe USYK. Not moving him past Crawford until he beats him.

                      And I am strictly going off what Mikey Garcia said himself. He wants to be considered the best fighter of his generation. You can’t possibly think he moves past Lomo & Alvarez....

                      1. VASYL LOMACHENKO
                      2. SAUL 'CANELO' ALVAREZ
                      3. TERENCE CRAWFORD
                      4. OLEKSANDR USYK
                      5. GENNADY GOLOVKIN
                      6. MIKEY GARCIA
                      7. ERROL SPENCE JR.
                      8. SRISAKET SOR RUNGVISAI
                      9. NAOYA INOUE
                      10. LEO SANTA CRUZ
                      I never said he would become P4P king with a win over Spence, but it would be such a monumental achievement i could certainly see him past Golovkin for example. So I see you've come to reason, not amusing about Garcia staying put even after a possible win over Spence; good on you

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