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  • P4Pdunny
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    #121
    He can fight both in a handicap match and call them the Pedamania team

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      #122
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      Ortiz will whoop his ass. I don't think Eddie Hearn is ready for that kind of smoke this early in his Heavyweight boxing career.
      LOL i like the confidence, man !! I think Ortiz is a bloody iffy pick for Usyk. Physically he's way stronger and a huge puncher too. He's such a slick heavyweight too. Usyk would definitely want to take him into the late rounds and look to stop him once he tires.

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      • Jax teller
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        #123
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        I think you are underestimating Ortiz' boxing ability. Dude is a scientific, fundamentally sound boxer with a solid amateur pedigree. While, it's true he may be slow but yet he is still dangerous. That's why no one wants to fight this man.

        As far as Kauffman goes, I could have done that myself. I could run out the clock and avoid not getting hit for twelve rounds if I am in good shape. It takes two to tangle and dude was running around the ring like a deer in headlights. He didn't want no smoke from Ortiz.

        Lastly, as far who has Ortiz fought that Usyk couldn't beat. I'll throw you an easy one; Deontay Wilder. They are practically the same size and he will stop him even faster than King Kong would.
        *mediocre amateur pedigree

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          #124
          Originally posted by Jax teller
          *mediocre amateur pedigree
          As an amateur the man had damn near 400 fights and only lost 19 of them. If that's not solid then I don't know what solid is. He probably didn't win many tournaments or medals but yet still that's a good resume as an amateur.

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            #125
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            As an amateur the man had damn near 400 fights and only lost 19 of them. If that's not solid then I don't know what solid is. He probably didn't win many tournaments or medals but yet still that's a good resume as an amateur.
            Him not winning many tournaments and medals what does that tell you? Because Rigo fought a similar number of fights with over 11 loses and he won everything from World Champion to Olympic gold. He probably just stayed fight bum amateurs in his local gym. He is either very unlucky or ******. 400 fights and not one major accolade throughout the 70’s and 80’s

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              #126
              Originally posted by Noelanthony
              Him not winning many tournaments and medals what does that tell you? Because Rigo fought a similar number of fights with over 11 loses and he won everything from World Champion to Olympic gold. He probably just stayed fight bum amateurs in his local gym. He is either very unlucky or ******. 400 fights and not one major accolade throughout the 70’s and 80’s
              He was a little unlucky to be boxing at the same time as Odlanier Solis who was much better than him and consequently selected as Cuba's representative at many amateur tournaments.

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                #127
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                As an amateur the man had damn near 400 fights and only lost 19 of them. If that's not solid then I don't know what solid is. He probably didn't win many tournaments or medals but yet still that's a good resume as an amateur.
                349 fights, never made it to the olympics and wasn't even the best Cuban after loosing 4/5 Cuban championships. All those wins don't mean much if they're not against meaningful competition and he clearly wasn't good enough to win or even participate in meaningful competitions. Not good for someone who was 30 on their pro debut.

                If you need a Cuban to support for their amateur pedigree I suggest Ringondeaux , 7 time national Champ, 2 Olympic Golds and 475 fights with 12 losses.

                That's pedigree, I don't rate someone just because they have a lot wins against bums. Anyone can fight guys levels below and rack up numbers, you got show you can beat guys at top level consistently to be considered top level.

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                • Noelanthony
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Holler
                  He was a little unlucky to be boxing at the same time as Odlanier Solis who was much better than him and consequently selected as Cuba's representative at many amateur tournaments.
                  I know I just like seeing how passionate champion4 ever is about Ortiz. I have a sneaky feeling they are related. My next post is to reveal to him Ortiz is gay and see if he takes the bait and concedes that Ortiz is in fact his grandfather

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Noelanthony
                    I know I just like seeing how passionate champion4 ever is about Ortiz. I have a sneaky feeling they are related. My next post is to reveal to him Ortiz is gay and see if he takes the bait and concedes that Ortiz is in fact his grandfather
                    You are the funniest British comic since Benny Hill.

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      You are the funniest British comic since Benny Hill.
                      Lol

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