PBC on FOX delivers knockout ratings

[bigdunny1]

For the last time, what were your expectations in average and peak please. Just answer the question.

And this was one of your first posts in the thread:



So why are you comparing the telecast average to the Lomachenko fight when you don't know the final numbers to the PBC card? In fact, the 1.69 is NOT even counting the main event and they are the preliminary numbers. Why would you do that if you understood the numbers so well? That makes no sense at all.

I already answered you dummy and told you what would of been a good overnight rating 2M. First you lied and said these numbers were better then any UFC on FOX rating in 2018. Lie I already posted not just their most recent card which did better but historically every overnight rating since 2011 on FOX and every card in their history but 3 did better overnight ratings then PBC just did. So the ratings aren't comparable or better they are hands down worse. Then you lied and said that the ratings are not in the millions no idiot they actually are. I have no clue where you got whatever so called overnight meter number from ESPN since Nielsen doesn't even release daily overnight ratings for cable TV just Network TV. lol I compared the Persons 2+ (000s) from both fights.





No shyt it's comparing the overnight to the final ratings because cable doesn't release these overnight numbers and we don't have the final adjusted numbers for PBC yet. All we have is overnight. But no way a fight on FOX should be drawing lower overnight ratings then a fight on ESPN. One is on network tv in more homes. Also the FOX fight was the debut of their new deal after spending ton of advertisement time and money to promote this across their platforms and still on a basically dead sports night with ZERO competition from any of the other major networks they still drew weak ratings. Not according to me or any promoter but according to the experts who analyze these ratings for a living. Why you see all that red for the PBC numbers? That's not a boxing guy or a PBC PR twitter account saying that. We can talk about the final adjusted numbers when they actually come out, by the way they DO NOT always go up like you keep saying. But for now stay focused on the numbers we do have which weren't good no matter how much you try and spin it. Not good compared to recent boxing fights (see ESPN rating), not good compared to what the other networks did last weekend (see FOX finished dead last in ratings), not good compared to past fights on FOX (see UFC ratings). You are trying to move the goal post to the final numbers which don't exist yet because even your dumbazzz can read a chart and know these overnight ratings weren't good.

[The Problem Child]

Shame because it was a crap PBC card as usual

[KTFOKING]

I already answered you dummy and told you what would of been a good overnight rating 2M. First you lied and said these numbers were better then any UFC on FOX rating in 2018. Lie I already posted not just their most recent card which did better but historically every overnight rating since 2011 on FOX and every card in their history but 3 did better overnight ratings then PBC just did. So the ratings aren't comparable or better they are hands down worse. Then you lied and said that the ratings are not in the millions no idiot they actually are. I have no clue where you got whatever so called overnight meter number from ESPN since Nielsen doesn't even release daily overnight ratings for cable TV just Network TV. lol I compared the Persons 2+ (000s) from both fights.





No shyt it's comparing the overnight to the final ratings because cable doesn't release these overnight numbers and we don't have the final adjusted numbers for PBC yet. All we have is overnight. But no way a fight on FOX should be drawing lower overnight ratings then a fight on ESPN. One is on network tv in more homes. Also the FOX fight was the debut of their new deal after spending ton of advertisement time and money to promote this across their platforms and still on a basically dead sports night with ZERO competition from any of the other major networks they still drew weak ratings. Not according to me or any promoter but according to the experts who analyze these ratings for a living. Why you see all that red for the PBC numbers? That's not a boxing guy or a PBC PR twitter account saying that. We can talk about the final adjusted numbers when they actually come out, by the way they DO NOT always go up like you keep saying. But for now stay focused on the numbers we do have which weren't good no matter how much you try and spin it. Not good compared to recent boxing fights (see ESPN rating), not good compared to what the other networks did last weekend (see FOX finished dead last in ratings), not good compared to past fights on FOX (see UFC ratings). You are trying to move the goal post to the final numbers which don't exist yet because even your dumbazzz can read a chart and know these overnight ratings weren't good.

I lied when I said it was the higher than any UFC card? Huh? Please point me to where I said that. I said it will be on par with the best UFC card in 2018, or even surpass it. That is not saying it will be higher than any UFC card. Now, it will be hard to surpass it since I was under the impression UFC card the prior week was the highest of the year, but that is not the case. That card for the telecast averaged 1.828 million while UFC on FOX 28 averaged 2.037 million. But I do expect it do be in that range still, hence on par with the best UFC on FOX card for 2018.

Okay perfect, so you are saying 2M is what you would have considered good? Cool, because you should get your wish then. It should average close to that range, and surpass 2M with its peak. LIS, average should be in the 1.8-2M range.

And what the hell don't you get? 1.5HH rating which this show did does not equate to millions.

You even referencing 1.69M when it did NOT include the main event makes no sense at all. So of course the numbers will go up, it doesn't take a rocket science to figure that out. If the telecast average is 1.69 WITHOUT taking into consideration the main event which did 1.8HH, how the hell will it not go up? You comparing that number to the Lomachenko numbers were foolish for that reason. Not only that, but Lomachenko's card PEAKED before the main event. That is extremely rare and shows it had a built in audience from the Heisman trophy presentation. I would agree that this card should do better than any ESPN card.....that doesn't consist of a big built in audience. That part is true, but guess what? It will do better numbers than any ESPN card not including having a big built in audience that skews the numbers.

[Big_L]

What im noticed from and the espn ratings breakdowns is that New Orleans is always one of the top markets. Im from N.O and I wish they would bring some big fights here.

[bigdunny1]

The ratings are low because people know the PBC product already and they know it is not very good. PBC's first run was not some small unknown program, everyone made a big deal about it, the networks such as NBC made a big deal about it, but its first run was defined mostly by terrible mis-matches and the press and public caught on so maybe this is a major factor in people not returning and tuning in.

I think Saturdays ratings were low because this fight was seen as nothing but a waste of time showcase for Charlo's who are both not draws. Look no further then to the blood bath they took in the ticket sales. You had thousands of tickets given away for free you had tickets going for 50-75% off original ticket price on secondary markets the last few days before the fight and still you didn't even fill HALF of the Barclays.

It was just plain dumb luck and the Charlo's being exposed so the fights were actually competitive. Which only hurt the stock of both Charlo's. But the fights was NOT viewed as competitive fights and one of the opponents was just added with 1 week notice. Look at the vegas odds Jermall was a -2550 favorite and Jermell was a -1275 favorite. That's why they FOX finished dead last in ratings and nobody wanted to see mismatches with guys who can't even fill an arena even when you give away tickets. Ignore the bogus PBC PR twitter account spinning this as good ratings they aren't. PBC needs to put their top guys in fights fans want to see that will drive the ratings up.

[bballchump11]

What im noticed from and the espn ratings breakdowns is that New Orleans is always one of the top markets. Im from N.O and I wish they would bring some big fights here.

Is Regis Prograis very popular down there?

[bigdunny1]

I lied when I said it was the higher than any UFC card? Huh? Please point me to where I said that. I said it will be on par with the best UFC card in 2018, or even surpass it. That is not saying it will be higher than any UFC card. Now, it will be hard to surpass it since I was under the impression UFC card the prior week was the highest of the year, but that is not the case. That card for the telecast averaged 1.828 million while UFC on FOX 28 averaged 2.037 million. But I do expect it do be in that range still, hence on par with the best UFC on FOX card for 2018.

Okay perfect, so you are saying 2M is what you would have considered good? Cool, because you should get your wish then. It should average close to that range, and surpass 2M with its peak. LIS, average should be in the 1.8-2M range.

And what the hell don't you get? 1.5HH rating which this show did does not equate to millions.

You even referencing 1.69M when it did NOT include the main event makes no sense at all. So of course the numbers will go up, it doesn't take a rocket science to figure that out. If the telecast average is 1.69 WITHOUT taking into consideration the main event which did 1.8HH, how the hell will it not go up? You comparing that number to the Lomachenko numbers were foolish for that reason. Not only that, but Lomachenko's card PEAKED before the main event. That is extremely rare and shows it had a built in audience from the Heisman trophy presentation. I would agree that this card should do better than any ESPN card.....that doesn't consist of a big built in audience. That part is true, but guess what? It will do better numbers than any ESPN card not including having a big built in audience that skews the numbers.

these numbers are NOT on par with UFC that's a bold face lie I already posted UFC on FOX overnight ratings so cut the shyt.

http://mmapayout.com/2018/12/ufc-on-fox-31-livesd-draws-1-828m-prelims-does-256k-on-fs1/

And yes the ratings could go down. Don't believe me just look at last weeks UFC ratings on FOX drew 2,150,000 overnight rating but later when the final numbers were adjusted it finished with 1,828,000. It will probably go up but it could be insignificant the amount this is all pure speculation on your part to try and deflect from the fact that that overnight numbers were not good. If the numbers were good you would't be pulling excuses out your azzz and trying to kick the can down the road saying lets wait for the final numbers.

No overnight ratings on FOX after the huge media blitz they gave this fight should have lower ratings then ESPN just got 2 weeks ago. One is on Network TV you idiot. And those aren't even the series high ratings for ESPN let alone their best boxing ratings for 2018 I brought them up to compare since they were just mere weeks apart. You pick the comp you want these ratings simply aint good. Last week UFC pulled a overnight of over 2M head to head with more going on in the sports world (I love how you abandoned ship with your first BS excuse that it was down because of NFL Network game because FOX went head to head with a NFL Network game the week before as well and drew overnight rating higher.). FACT FOX finished dead last in networks, PBC had a worse overnight rating then all but 3 UFC on FOX cards in the last 7 years. Ratings experts who don't give a damn about boxing or BS spin flagged these ratings in the red stop pretending these are good network ratings.

[KTFOKING]

these numbers are NOT on par with UFC that's a bold face lie I already posted UFC on FOX overnight ratings so cut the shyt.

http://mmapayout.com/2018/12/ufc-on-fox-31-livesd-draws-1-828m-prelims-does-256k-on-fs1/

And yes the ratings could go down. Don't believe me just look at last weeks UFC ratings on FOX drew 2,150,000 overnight rating but later when the final numbers were adjusted it finished with 1,828,000. It will probably go up but it could be insignificant the amount this is all pure speculation on your part to try and deflect from the fact that that overnight numbers were not good. If the numbers were good you would't be pulling excuses out your azzz and trying to kick the can down the road saying lets wait for the final numbers.

No overnight ratings on FOX after the huge media blitz they gave this fight should have lower ratings then ESPN just got 2 weeks ago. One is on Network TV you idiot. And those aren't even the series high ratings for ESPN let alone their best boxing ratings for 2018 I brought them up to compare since they were just mere weeks apart. You pick the comp you want these ratings simply aint good. Last week UFC pulled a overnight of over 2M head to head with more going on in the sports world (I love how you abandoned ship with your first BS excuse that it was down because of NFL Network game because FOX went head to head with a NFL Network game the week before as well and drew overnight rating higher.). FACT FOX finished dead last in networks, PBC had a worse overnight rating then all but 3 UFC on FOX cards in the last 7 years. Ratings experts who don't give a damn about boxing or BS spin flagged these ratings in the red stop pretending these are good network ratings.

Moron, the 1.69M you kept referring to does NOT take into account the third hour, ya know the hour that contained the main event. So why keep bringing that up?

https://www.mmaweekly.com/final-ufc-...tings-for-2018

These are the ratings that matter. And yes, I fully expect the PBC on FOX to average around 1.8-2M. Use your head real quick. The HH rating for this card in the first hour was 1.2, the second hour was 1.5 and the third hour was 1.8. Let's use the numbers you posted. For the first hour which was a 1.2HH, the preliminary numbers are 1.509M. The second hour which was 1.5HH, the numbers were 1.865M. Now, with the third hour having a 1.8M what do you think the numbers will be? By all accounts one would say around 2.1-2.2M. So what does the average broadcast come out to? 1.82M. Do you not realize the stuff you posted is not taking into consideration the third hour? You do realize the broadcast was scheduled for 2.5 hours and went closer to the 3 hour mark correct? That is why you using the 1.69 numbers makes no damn sense at all. And I honestly don't think you even knew that. This is why I am predicting the broadcast doing an average of 1.8-2M range, which will indeed be on par with the top UFC broadcasts of the year. You said the PBC card would have rated as the third lowest since UFC on FOX became a thing? There is a good chance it's not even the third lowest of 2018.

Don't worry though, we will get the numbers soon enough and we shall see just how they compare to the UFC cards in 2018.

[Squ□redCircle34]

True, Jermall Charlo ROBBED Korobov. Enough is enough. Thanks for your post.

I disagree, it could’ve went either way especially in that 12th which was a 10-8 round!

Now, Mel Charlo definitely got robbed!

You don’t beat champions by just jabs, and surviving!

[jdp28tx]

Such a hate filled post with so many lies

Do you have any proof they ran through half a billion or are we going off the same reddit thread

You do realize that Haymon who loves nothing better then to put on sh.it fights according to you in the man responsible for his stable having the majority of fights in the sport where the best fight the best. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your reasoning

And you’re right they ran through all that $ with nothing to show for it except a major network deal for years , having their previous platform ( Showtime) up their boxing budget and raising the profile of most of their young American fighters. I guess besides that you’re right they didn’t do much

PBC seeping money, when will it turn around?

http://mmapayout.com/2016/02/pbc-seeping-money-when-will-it-turn-around/

Alleged investments into PBC’s Al Haymon plummet $434 million in a single year
https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/9/2...bc-boxing-news

How do you lose $430 million in a year? Al Haymon’s PBC could become boxing’s *******

http://www.fightopinion.com/2016/08/08/boxing-al-haymon-*******-430-million-waddell-ivy/