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So how many million watched it on average?Comment
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I already answered you dummy and told you what would of been a good overnight rating 2M. First you lied and said these numbers were better then any UFC on FOX rating in 2018. Lie I already posted not just their most recent card which did better but historically every overnight rating since 2011 on FOX and every card in their history but 3 did better overnight ratings then PBC just did. So the ratings aren't comparable or better they are hands down worse. Then you lied and said that the ratings are not in the millions no idiot they actually are. I have no clue where you got whatever so called overnight meter number from ESPN since Nielsen doesn't even release daily overnight ratings for cable TV just Network TV. lol I compared the Persons 2+ (000s) from both fights.
No shyt it's comparing the overnight to the final ratings because cable doesn't release these overnight numbers and we don't have the final adjusted numbers for PBC yet. All we have is overnight. But no way a fight on FOX should be drawing lower overnight ratings then a fight on ESPN. One is on network tv in more homes. Also the FOX fight was the debut of their new deal after spending ton of advertisement time and money to promote this across their platforms and still on a basically dead sports night with ZERO competition from any of the other major networks they still drew weak ratings. Not according to me or any promoter but according to the experts who analyze these ratings for a living. Why you see all that red for the PBC numbers? That's not a boxing guy or a PBC PR twitter account saying that. We can talk about the final adjusted numbers when they actually come out, by the way they DO NOT always go up like you keep saying. But for now stay focused on the numbers we do have which weren't good no matter how much you try and spin it. Not good compared to recent boxing fights (see ESPN rating), not good compared to what the other networks did last weekend (see FOX finished dead last in ratings), not good compared to past fights on FOX (see UFC ratings). You are trying to move the goal post to the final numbers which don't exist yet because even your dumbazzz can read a chart and know these overnight ratings weren't good.PBC on FOX scored 1.971 million viewers
— BrooklynBrawler1970 (@BklynBrawler05) December 27, 2018
+33% better than last year’s comparable PBC
FOX’s most-watched PBC telecast since 2016
2nd most-watched Boxing telecast of the year
peaked with 2.4 mill@boxing_esq @Fistianadospod @snboxing @round_15 @lazylefty @realjohnelaw @loudibella
So are you happy now? It did pretty much EXACTLY what you were looking for in 2M and it peaked at 2.4. It also wasn't close to being comparable to the third lowest telecast in the UFC on FOX history. In fact, the 1.971M average ranks right with the two best telecasts for UFC in 2018 (2.02M/2.037M). It out did the last UFC on FOX telecast and it out did the Lomachenko/Pedraza card.
The flaw with using the numbers you did wasn't just that they were the overnight numbers and those tend to usually increase when the actual numbers come out, but it was that you used only the first two hours of the telecast and not the main event. Now, my question is does ShowBuzzzDaily only go up til 10 PM so that's why they didn't include the 3rd hour?
Better numbers to use are the HH metered ratings. I predicted all along this telecast would do 1.8-2M in average and peak above 2M. I was pretty much dead on with my guess. But it wasn't all that difficult when you break down the HH ratings per hour. If 1.2HH did 1.58M, and 1.5HH did 1.85M, then you just knew that 1.8HH was going to do around 2.1-2.2M. And we actually saw it did more than that as it peaked at 2.4.
Overall, the card did good numbers considering this was the first card the Charlo's headlined and the fact they really aren't stars. If PBC on FOX wanted to make a bigger splash, they could have started with a bigger headline name in Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman.Comment
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So it didn't do 2M viewer's which is what I said would be considered a good rating. It didn't do better then highest UFC on FOX for 2018 like you said it would. And still FOX finished dead last for all major networks and the final numbers are still listed as below average rating.
So you were wrong about everything and it only slightly beat out the 1.87M viewer's ESPN just got despite that being on cable in way fewer homes and this being on network TV and this being the debut card with tons of promotion from FOX and head to head with a slow sports night and the other major networks airing reruns no live programing. It only a good rating if you strictly compare it recent worse PBC ratings. That's like bragging about being the tallest midget.
Every UFC card did better except 3 in their entire 7 year history. It only outdid 3 of the WORST ratings of UFC on Fox and those came when FOX stopped promoting the events because the UFC deal was ending. lolLast edited by bigdunny1; 12-27-2018, 11:31 AM.Comment
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Okay, so it didn't do 2M as it was off about 30k to that mark. So because of that it becomes a failure? Got it, will come back to this later in the post.So it didn't do 2M viewer's which is what I said would be considered a good rating. It didn't do better then highest UFC on FOX for 2018 like you said it would. And still FOX finished dead last for all major networks and the final numbers are still listed as below average rating.
So you were wrong about everything and it only slightly beat out the 1.87M viewer's ESPN just got despite that being on cable in way fewer homes and this being on network TV and this being the debut card with tons of promotion from FOX and head to head with a slow sports night and the other major networks airing reruns no live programing. It only a good rating if you strictly compare it recent worse PBC ratings. That's like bragging about being the tallest midget.
Every UFC card did better except 3 in their entire 7 year history. It only outdid 3 of the WORST ratings of UFC on Fox and those came when FOX stopped promoting the events because the UFC deal was ending. lol
I said it would do on par with the top UFC broadcasts in 2018, which is absolutely did. Even the fact I didn't take into consideration the best one did 2.037 (I thought the best one did lower), it was still around that mark. And it better than what you said, when you stated the PBC card would rank as the third lowest in the history of UFC on FOX. I said the card would average 1.8M-2M and peak over 2M which is absolutely did. I can't believe you didn't once take into consideration the third hour that did the best numbers but the overnight numbers excluded. To be honest, I still don't think it hit you until I told you for the 100th time. Then you sort of started to get it. So there is some progress there at least.
So according to you, because this telecast did around 30k less than what you would consider a success, some how it doing over 100k more than the Lomachenko card means it only did "slightly" better? Huh? How does that even make any sense? And let's not even get started how you tried to say the Lomachenko card out did this one....when you used the overnight national numbers that did NOT include the main event. That is certainly L-O-L worthy sh^t right there. Let's also not ignore that the Lomachenko card had a very good built in audience with the Heisman Trophy presentation and the card PEAKED before the main event. How often does that happen? Well, it happens when the numbers are skewed by the build in audience. Anyways, that's another discussion, but let's get back to topic. You said it still finished last among the major networks, yet to you a success would have been 2M average. Even if it did 30k more and reached your success target amount, it still would have finished last. So why would 2M to you have been a success then if that amount still results in the lowest ratings from the other major networks? Something isn't adding up here.Comment
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Yeah, but again how would they pay Pacman that money? They would have to be willing to increase their budget for boxing (FOX that is), or pay for that fight separate knowing it will cost them a pretty penny. His fight vs Broner would do insane numbers on FOX no doubt. If DSG vs Thurman averaged like 3.75M and peaked at 5M, this fight would probably average 5M and peak at 6.5-7M.Comment
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