PBC on FOX delivers knockout ratings

[bballchump11]

Here is the thing, when it says overnight rating of 1.5 or 1.8 that does not mean millions. The overnight preliminary numbers for viewers were 1.69 million, that did NOT include the main event. That was only for the first two hours of the broadcast. You're telling me the main event that had the biggest rating is not going to add to that? Just know how the numbers work before you speak on it. Like I said, the average of the broadcast will be close to the 2 million range or around say 1.8-2 million, and the main event will peak above that. Now, if you think that is disappointing then fine. You had more expectations than you probably should have. But still, know what you are referencing.

Btw,

Last night's fight on FOX out-rated EVERY UFC telecast in 2018 @premierboxing @loudibella @lazylefty @boxingscene @boxing_esq @realjohnelaw @lazylefty @Fistianadospod @BarbosaBox @BoxingNewsED @KBouhairie @Brooklyn_Boxing @round_15

— BrooklynBrawler1970 (@BklynBrawler05) December 23, 2018

Good numbers for last night's Fight Card on FOX 1.5 HH RTG, network's best PBC performance of 2018 (almost double the avg)@snboxing @boxingscene @boxing_esq @Fistianadospod @loudibella @Brooklyn_Boxing @realjohnelaw @lazylefty

— BrooklynBrawler1970 (@BklynBrawler05) December 23, 2018

Fight by fight avgs
o Fight 1- Negron/Breazeale 1.2 RTG
o Fight 2 Charlo/ Harrison 1.5 RTG
o Fight 3- Charlo/Korobov 1.8 RTG

That's a good look for FOX that the numbers went up

— BrooklynBrawler1970 (@BklynBrawler05) December 23, 2018

Now, to me it doesn't mean much saying it out did every other PBC telecast on FOX as they were putting on mediocre fighters like Berto/Alexander/etc. And I'm also not sure if the part about out doing every UFC telecast is correct since their last show did really solid numbers. But good sign the numbers went up for the entire telecast. Usually happens that way, but since Lomachenko/Pedraza was referenced, that fight peaked BEFORE the main event which shows you the telecast had a big carry over from the Heisman trophy presentation.

Thanks for relevant information. If they keep up these numbers, then they'll surely get their deal renewed in 4 years for even more than $60 million a year.

Plus this was the Charlos who never headline their own shows vs tuneups. Imagine what the bigger cards will do.

[KTFOKING]

Thanks for relevant information. If they keep up these numbers, then they'll surely get their deal renewed in 4 years for even more than $60 million a year.

Plus this was the Charlos who never headline their own shows vs tuneups. Imagine what the bigger cards will do.

Remember, FOX is paying damn near half or close to half of what they used to pay for the UFC. So if the PBC is doing similar ratings, how is that a bad thing? And PBC has the ability to far surpass that if they put on fights like Thurman/Porter on prime time. One thing to consider is FOX is big on PPVs. They believe heavy in that and that is why I expect them to continue putting on PPVs even if the numbers aren't all that good. Personally? I don't really like that. Put on two to three PPV cards MAX a year. Because SHO will certainly put Wilder's fights on PPVs from here on out if he beats Fury in a rematch. Boxing doesn't need monthly PPVs like the UFC. Truthfully, the UFC doesn't need monthly PPVs either. They got such a huge deal with ESPN, I don't really get why they need so many PPVs. You should be able to put on PPV worthy cards on ESPN or ESPN+ with that type of budget.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Bro, who is that girl in your signature?

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=19381905&postcount=25

[bballchump11]

Remember, FOX is paying damn near half or close to half of what they used to pay for the UFC. So if the PBC is doing similar ratings, how is that a bad thing? And PBC has the ability to far surpass that if they put on fights like Thurman/Porter on prime time. One thing to consider is FOX is big on PPVs. They believe heavy in that and that is why I expect them to continue putting on PPVs even if the numbers aren't all that good. Personally? I don't really like that. Put on two to three PPV cards MAX a year. Because SHO will certainly put Wilder's fights on PPVs from here on out if he beats Fury in a rematch. Boxing doesn't need monthly PPVs like the UFC. Truthfully, the UFC doesn't need monthly PPVs either. They got such a huge deal with ESPN, I don't really get why they need so many PPVs. You should be able to put on PPV worthy cards on ESPN or ESPN+ with that type of budget.

I definitely agree. I hope they don't get tempted to put the likes of Thurman vs Porter on ppv. Idk how they'll make their money back on those fights unless their marketing really is top notch.

[KTFOKING]

I definitely agree. I hope they don't get tempted to put the likes of Thurman vs Porter on ppv. Idk how they'll make their money back on those fights unless their marketing really is top notch.

Forget making money off those cards, they may be forced to use some of their budget to cover the losses on certain cards. Thurman vs Porter nor Spence vs Garcia nor Crawford vs DSG should be on PPV if we're being honest. All terrific match ups, but not PPV worthy. Well, stack the UC and I may change my opinion, but in that case you will be paying big money there and that seems unlikely if you don't want a big loss on the PPV.

But if Haymon is able to negotiate a deal similar to the one that UFC did where they take more than a 50/50 split with cable distributors? Then it is likely we see more PPVs and not less.

[bigdunny1]

You have NO idea how this works do you? Don't try to lie and act like you didn't think the overnight rating meant how many viewers the show had. I mean why else would you put M behind it? What exactly would the M stand for if it isn't million?

Once again, when did I argue this card had great attendance? In fact, even beforehand I said it was a mistake putting this card in NY after consecutive NY cards in the prior two weeks. And this was the first card the Charlo's were headlining so not like they were big names anyways. This wasn't an Errol Spence or Danny Garcia headlining a card, this was two brothers who don't have nearly the name as the other two headlining the third consecutive NY card three days before Xmas.

I spread fake ticket numbers. WTF is wrong with you? That was from Keith Idec, NOT me. And if he was wrong or lying, then DLH damn sure was doing the same saying only 400-500 tickets remained on Thursday morning.

Then you had no idea who Meltzer was or did and kept trying to make him look to be a Joe Blow when he was is much more respected than that.

Only person with an agenda seems to be you. Either as MotorCityCorba said you are a big time PBC hater, or a huge DLH/DAZN fan. Agenda is being pushed by you, not me.

Are you ****** of course the tv ratings is in the millions. Here is the official overnight numbers



It's listed as 1,509 for the first hour but if you look at the index you idiot it says to add 000s to it. So the official number from Nielsen is actually 1,509,000. If you still don't believe that the number is in the millions here is a website that tracks these numbers look at how they write the overnight numbers in the millions as well.

http://mmapayout.com/2018/12/ufc-on-fox-31-livesd-draws-1-828m-prelims-does-256k-on-fs1/

That same website at times instead of writing 1,509,000 in their articles will just write 1.5M for overnight ratings. And some websites just write it as a decimal 1.5. No clue why you now trying to make this a semantics argument on how to write the overnight rating but you clearly have no clue what the ratings is. As for how these ratings compare to FOX UFC numbers in the history of UFC on FOX which started in 2011 only 3 of their cards EVER drew a lower overnight rating then PBC just drew. And last week was a busier sports night and they drew higher ratings. See the same link for history of their overnight ratings. These ratings aren't good and caused FOX to finish dead last in network rating for Saturday night.

[KTFOKING]

Are you ****** of course the tv ratings is in the millions. Here is the official overnight numbers



It's listed as 1,509 for the first hour but if you look at the index you idiot it says to add 000s to it. So the official number from Nielsen is actually 1,509,000. If you still don't believe that the number is in the millions here is a website that tracks these numbers look at how they write the overnight numbers in the millions as well.

http://mmapayout.com/2018/12/ufc-on-fox-31-livesd-draws-1-828m-prelims-does-256k-on-fs1/

That same website at times instead of writing 1,509,000 in their articles will just write 1.5M for overnight ratings. And some websites just write it as a decimal 1.5. No clue why you now trying to make this a semantics argument on how to write the overnight rating but you clearly have no clue what the ratings is. As for how these ratings compare to FOX UFC numbers in the history of UFC on FOX which started in 2011 only 3 of their cards EVER drew a lower overnight rating then PBC just drew. And last week was a busier sports night and they drew higher ratings. See the same link for history of their overnight ratings.

Buddy, when referencing overnight ratings of 1.5 or 2.0, that is not in millions. Lomachenko vs Pedraza had a overnight rating of 1.4 while the telecast ended up averaging 1.8 million and peaking above 2.1 million. The HH rating was 1.5, referencing the 1.69 million is irrelevant as that won't be the final numbers. Just come back after the numbers get released on Wednesday and see them be in the range of what I am telling you. Average will be 1.8 to 2 million with a peak over 2 million, likely in the range of 2.1-2.2 million.

The 1.69 million or w/e number you kept referencing was for the first two hours of the broadcast, NOT including the main event that did the highest numbers:

Note this fast national viewership only includes the first two hours.

— Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) December 23, 2018

yes

— Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) December 23, 2018

Just fast national. Will be higher when finals are out.

— Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) December 23, 2018

As this guy stated, the numbers were comparable to the UFC shows on FOX....Which FOX was paying TWICE as much as they are the PBC shows. So I'm going to ask for the last time, what were your expectations for this show? Give me the numbers in MILLIONS, so the average and peak. Last time you said 2.0, so that was the HH in percentage. Let's make it easier this time around.

[bigdunny1]

Buddy, when referencing overnight ratings of 1.5 or 2.0, that is not in millions. Lomachenko vs Pedraza had a overnight rating of 1.4 while the telecast ended up averaging 1.8 million and peaking above 2.1 million. The HH rating was 1.5, referencing the 1.69 million is irrelevant as that won't be the final numbers. Just come back after the numbers get released on Wednesday and see them be in the range of what I am telling you. Average will be 1.8 to 2 million with a peak over 2 million, likely in the range of 2.1-2.2 million.

The 1.69 million or w/e number you kept referencing was for the first two hours of the broadcast, NOT including the main event that did the highest numbers:

Note this fast national viewership only includes the first two hours.

— Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) December 23, 2018

yes

— Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) December 23, 2018

Just fast national. Will be higher when finals are out.

— Jed I. Goodman (@jedigoodman) December 23, 2018

As this guy stated, the numbers were comparable to the UFC shows on FOX....Which FOX was paying TWICE as much as they are the PBC shows. So I'm going to ask for the last time, what were your expectations for this show? Give me the numbers in MILLIONS, so the average and peak. Last time you said 2.0, so that was the HH in percentage. Let's make it easier this time around.

Idiot I already posted links to show you the actual number from Nielsen. It is in the millions you dumb azzz. I never said those are the final viewership numbers don't try and change the argument or put words in my mouth. I said the overnight numbers were 1.6M which it was if you want to write it 1.6 or 1,600,000 it's the same thing. We don't know final viewership numbers because those aren't out yet we can only just the overnight ratings which weren't good by UFC standards or network standards FOX finished dead last and websites that study these ratings list it as below average. Stop the excuses they weren't good and stop bringing up final numbers that you have no clue what they will be yet.

[KTFOKING]

Idiot I already posted links to show you the actual number from Nielsen. It is in the millions you dumb azzz. I never said those are the final viewership numbers don't try and change the argument or put words in my mouth. I said the overnight numbers were 1.6M which it was if you want to write it 1.6 or 1,600,000 it's the same thing. We don't know final viewership numbers because those aren't out yet we can only just the overnight ratings which weren't good by UFC standards or network standards FOX finished dead last and websites that study these ratings list it as below average. Stop the excuses they weren't good and stop bringing up final numbers that you have no clue what they will be yet.

For the last time, what were your expectations in average and peak please. Just answer the question.

And this was one of your first posts in the thread:

NFL was not on network tv. And this basically did what 1.6M viewer's on network tv. 2 weeks ago ESPN which is on cable TV in less homes did 1.86M viewer's for lomachenko. ESPN Boxing shouldn't be beating FOX Boxing cards. FOX competition last night was NBC, CBS, ABC who all aired reruns and drew much higher ratings then FOX who aired PBC. This is PR spinning comparing the numbers to past PBC cards that drew worse.

So why are you comparing the telecast average to the Lomachenko fight when you don't know the final numbers to the PBC card? In fact, the 1.69 is NOT even counting the main event and they are the preliminary numbers. Why would you do that if you understood the numbers so well? That makes no sense at all.

[Lion81]

Good news but they gotta do something bout the judging!

It’s just getting awful

True, Jermall Charlo ROBBED Korobov. Enough is enough. Thanks for your post.