Comments Thread For: Wilder-Fury Draw Falls Within Scoring "Cone of Uncertainty"

[yoshik]

The volume gap was not even material. Deontay threw far more punches and was only outlanded by 13. 7 of the 10 10-9 rounds Fury and Wilder were within two landed punches.

Wilder was the more aggressive, active fighter and got two knockdowns. This isn't even in the same galaxy as Bradley-Pac or the 18-10 Canelo-GGG card. I don't like the 15-11 card but 14-12 Wilder is easily in the window of reasonable scores..

And you are officially a fanboy. Wilder landed nothing. He ate jabs all night long. I bet the view is your favorite TV show

[BWC]

People, you score a fight per round. You can't go back and give more rounds to Wilder given his performance when he knocked down fury. it was clear Wilder was outboxed, he was befuddled, all he did was throw right hands. All he does is come forward but he was not effective so therefore effective aggression did not exist. Fury won that fight 8 to 4.for this to be a controversy shows the ignorance of boxing fans today. No longer do they actually watch the fight but they automatically give the nod to their favorite. We have Fanboys we don't have boxing fans. With this shi tty fight I'm done with boxing. With the triple G debacle Manny Pacquiao Timothy Bradley, and on and on and on integrity in boxing no longer exists.

You won't be missed.

[gbonafide]

No disrespect Lyle, but your articles usually fall within the “Cone of Dubious Journalism.”

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This author is a fsuking moron!

[Joe Beamish]

I get the concept, “margin of error,” etc., but my cone of uncertainty doesn’t allow Wilder more than four rounds won.

I say F the cone of uncertainty.

Make judges accountable for how they score rounds.

[BWC]

I get the concept, “margin of error,” etc., but my cone of uncertainty doesn’t allow Wilder more than four rounds won.

I say F the cone of uncertainty.

Make judges accountable for how they score rounds.

How would they do that? It's totally subjective. Some judges like a come-forward guy pressing the action, some like a guy slipping and rolling.

[CocoonOfHorror]

Interesting concept, but f#ck it'd be a minor miracle if scorecards were only 2 rounds off this way or that way to be within the "cone of certainty". I think the problem that arises is there is often more than 2 rounds that could have went either way.

When I've tracked close rounds on my scorecards that could have went either way there can be 3-6 of them on the regular. Thats problematic with determining whats a bad outcome or not.

I agree, there were at least four very close rounds in this fight.

From Round 6-12, I thought the winner of each round was clear; with Wilder only winning the knockdown rounds (although the two judges other than Rochin actually gave Round 7 to Wilder). But I thought rounds 1, 2, 4 and 5 were all close. There were so few punches landed that even a single solid jab could have shaded those rounds.

I'm a Wilder fan and I had it 114-112 for Fury. But I scored Round 1 for Fury on his late flurry whereas all three judges scored it for Wilder.

[Madison Boxing]

Its strange how this scoring cone seems to favour the home fighter (or more marketable) every time. Must be coincidence

[Boxing lives]

wilders punch kept him in the fight and showed he can get it done in the rematch or joshua tune up

[Granath]

100% had Fury winning. The people defended a draw are just saving face.

"100% of Fury fans have Fury winning" is not exactly a compelling argument.

The majority of the ringside press had it a draw or Wilder winning. I'll take a guy like Dan Rafael - a guy who has won awards for boxing journalism - and who had Wilder winning by a round over some anonymous user from a message board. The tight scores, the almost dead-even CompuBox numbers and the very mixed scorecards of the boxing press at ringside are strong indications that this fight was far closer than most want to admit.

Of course, if someone sits there and listens to guys like Floyd and Lewis - who publicly spoke about being Fury favorites before the fight - gab all night long while watching the fight, it's human nature to be influenced by that. People don't realize they're being told who is winning the fight while watching it. And far too many people here don't actually understand boxing scoring either. I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad how many people want to talk about Ring Generalship. Ring Generalship doesn't win a damn thing without the punches to back it up like aggression doesn't win a damn thing if you're not connecting.