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  • chrisJS
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    #41
    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
    So by this logic Tapper scorecard was also "wrong".
    If he didn’t give Fury a minimum of 8 rounds yes he was wrong. 4 rounds is extremely generous to Wilder. Biased even.

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    • Redgloveman
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      Are you folks mad at Rachin scorecard or the fight result. Edward's had it a draw and only differed from Tapper by round 6, which was close. That's how close the fight was.

      Most post seem to reflect anger that Fury didn't win, feeling that Rachin took the W away. The result was fair, how we got their wasn't ideal however. Let's just acknowledge that and move on.

      Boxing hasn't changed. Fans have. Fans are killing the sport.
      I've said it before, but anyone who finds themselves trying to justify a draw which favours a champion fighting at home seriously needs to consider their objectivity.

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      • Ake-Dawg
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        #43
        Originally posted by Redgloveman
        I've said it before, but anyone who finds themselves trying to justify a draw which favours a champion fighting at home seriously needs to consider their objectivity.
        I've said it before, Fury did enough to win, however a draw isn't an unreasonable result. Boxing's history of totally subjective scorecards defends the result.

        Fans have gotten too emotional and too invested in feeling "right" about results instead of just learning the history and enjoying the sport.

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #44
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          If he didn’t give Fury a minimum of 8 rounds yes he was wrong. 4 rounds is extremely generous to Wilder. Biased even.
          Have you ever been wrong on a scorecard? If so, how did you find out it was wrong?

          Asking for a friend.

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          • chrisJS
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            #45
            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            Have you ever been wrong on a scorecard? If so, how did you find out it was wrong?

            Asking for a friend.
            When I’ve seen I’m in the vast minority.

            Any card that has Fury winning less than 8 rounds is in the vast minority.

            Wilder lost on every aspect of judging in 10 rounds. Defense, ring generalship, affective aggression and clean punching. He was losing the two rounds he scored knockdowns in too.

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            • Ake-Dawg
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              #46
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              When I’ve seen I’m in the vast minority.

              Any card that has Fury winning less than 8 rounds is in the vast minority.

              Wilder lost on every aspect of judging in 10 rounds. Defense, ring generalship, affective aggression and clean punching. He was losing the two rounds he scored knockdowns in too.
              Exactly how does one find out that the vast majority scored rounds 1-3 for Fury. Is it by press scorecards? Boxing site scorecards. Former fighters. Current fighters?

              Fury has a great story. He fought a hell of a fight, did enough to win. I just don't see the need for outrage over the result of a draw, given the nature of the punches Fury landed (very few cleanly landed punches) and the amount of time he spent avoiding getting hit.

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              • slimPickings
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                #47
                Any way you slice it, it was a ROBBERY!

                Any time you go to a champion's backyard and get a DRAW that should tell you something.

                This was supposed to be a "cherry pick" and it went horribly wrong.

                Wilder should thank the judges who came to his rescue in his back yard.

                And i had predicted a Wilder KO prior.

                I know what my eyes saw.

                That belt belongs to Fury.

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                • BWC
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                  A draw certainly does, but not the Mexican judge's score. I can't make a case for that. I accept that some will greatly value power over volume, which is why a draw is easily understandable. But to go to that extent should require an explanation, and then review.
                  The volume gap was not even material. Deontay threw far more punches and was only outlanded by 13. 7 of the 10 10-9 rounds Fury and Wilder were within two landed punches.

                  Wilder was the more aggressive, active fighter and got two knockdowns. This isn't even in the same galaxy as Bradley-Pac or the 18-10 Canelo-GGG card. I don't like the 15-11 card but 14-12 Wilder is easily in the window of reasonable scores..

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                  • smfmikejohn
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                    #49
                    Mf trying to look smart with the titles

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                    • yoshik
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                      #50
                      People, you score a fight per round. You can't go back and give more rounds to Wilder given his performance when he knocked down fury. it was clear Wilder was outboxed, he was befuddled, all he did was throw right hands. All he does is come forward but he was not effective so therefore effective aggression did not exist. Fury won that fight 8 to 4.for this to be a controversy shows the ignorance of boxing fans today. No longer do they actually watch the fight but they automatically give the nod to their favorite. We have Fanboys we don't have boxing fans. With this shi tty fight I'm done with boxing. With the triple G debacle Manny Pacquiao Timothy Bradley, and on and on and on integrity in boxing no longer exists.

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